Star Trek: Picard.

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  1. We Are Borg

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    Boy, for a guy who hates JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman, you sure do post a lot of stuff from them.
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  2. 14thDoctor

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    Given the established musical tastes of the Enterprise D crew, you'd think they'd be blasting some Vivaldi or Mozart. :garamet:

    Meanwhile on the Titan, Seven tries to play something inspiring from the captains chair but Shaw's playlist has nothing but 90's techno music. :(
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    Really only Picard and Data - Geordi liked mamba, Riker has his beloved jazz, Worf liked Klingon opera.
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    O'Brien played the cello, and as far as I can remember all the live musical performances on the ship were classical. :clyde:



    But more importantly, Shaw put in 17 separate requests to have the Titan-A renamed "the Vengabus," and every single one of them was denied. :(
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    S Club 7.

    S for Seven. 7 for Seven.

    Ain't no party like an S Club party.
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    Did you know they're terrible people now?
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  8. We Are Borg

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    Now?
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    Someone at TBBS pointed out that Seven's journey to Captain is basically the same as Burnham's (maverick sassy female rulebreaker who gets rewarded instead of punished) and indeed Kirk's... but only Burnham gets shit for it.

    And I'm hard pressed to say it ain't so.
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  10. We Are Borg

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    Yeah, no. The comparison between Seven and Burnham falls apart on a lot of fronts.

    And I actually liked Burnham until they turned her into the Weep of the Week(tm) sometime around season three.
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    There's qwhite a few parallels, except for one key difference, yes. :bergman:
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    Only if she’s under an admiral named Seagram. Then she’s Seagram’s Seven.

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    ISWYDT.

    The only parallel is at a very high conceptual level, i.e. sassy female rulebreaker who's rewarded. That trope could actually apply to a lot of women in the Trek universe.

    There are major differences between Seven and Burnham's backstories, and how they arrived at captaining a ship. And no, it has nothing to do with skin colour except for the CHUDs (to use a term from @Diacanu) who want to make it about skin colour.
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    To be clear,I have no issue with how the stories themselves were written but the fanbase's reactions and double standards.

    I'd sure love to have a time machine to go back to 1996 to see what unhinged shit people had to say about Sisko and Janeway :borg:
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    But there is the Starlog letter at 153 Mark 4 degrees.
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    That wasn't Kirk's story until the reboot movies, which received plenty of criticism for it.
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    :wtf:

    Kirk almost never followed the rules in TOS.
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    TWoK aside, they didn't lean into it until the reboots though. And before TWoK, Kirk was a serious, studious cadet at the Academy. And he had actual moral values less neutral than "win at any cost" and "don't squeal on your homies".
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    Yeah, the annoying weepy speechifying.
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  20. Diacanu

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    Speechifying magically becomes less "annoying" when you're white, have a cock, have warpaint on, and are marching back and forth on a horse.
    Science just can't comprehend why this happens.
    Oh, yes it can, UA just doesn't read books.
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    What evidence do you present, beyond the usual flapping of your ass cheeks?

    I could do without weepy speechifying from anyone, ever. When you make it one third of your episode, the other two had better blow my damn socks off. Does that describe STD?
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    *UA's mouth vanishes*
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    That has become a bit of a trope, but I don't think it's true. Anyway, we're taking about his "journey to captain".
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    Just off the top of my head, "The Menagerie" is one of the better episodes of original Trek and has Kirk completely disobeying orders because of his loyalty to his friend. I probably wouldn't have to do too much googling to find all kinds of instances of Kirk not following the rulebook.

    The backstory on Kirk's journey to captain was never fully fleshed out in TOS but TWOK pretty much had him cheating on a test. :shrug:

    EDIT: I realize it was Spock who commandeered the Enterprise in the above episode, but Kirk ultimately stood by him once it became clear that Spock was helping his former captain. For other instances of Kirk wilfully disobeying orders, look no further than "Amok Time". Again to help his friend.
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    https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-things-about-captain-kirk/#rule-breaker
    I don’t think Kirk was a rule breaker, in “Court Marshall “ they go over Kirk’s record , for example.
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  26. Ebeneezer Goode

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    I'm not sure there are double standards, I mean, "Barbie of Borg" anyone? The writing and catsuit didn't help, but Seven was probably Patient Zero of incels rage wanking "dumb blonde" over their bedroom walls in lard-infused semen, and if you mentioned her in a room of female Trek fans, well, enough of them would eye roll to make it audible, unless you had any Pams from Archer in the room literally drowning it out.

    Had Picard happened instead of ENT, I'm confident the internet would have been full of snarky wonderings of just who'd she'd blown to get that job.

    Time and memberberries are great for imbuing tolerance.

    Roll on 20 years, and if we get a Burnham series expect most of her detractors tuning in and their neurons working overtime on the editing of historical opinions.
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    You have someone with severe childhood trauma, raised by the most emotionally inept species in Trek, got her beloved Captain killed and turned in a Klingon all-you-can-eat buffet, chucked in prison and then fucked about with Mirror Lorca before being hoofed off into the future with a crew that put the disco into dysfunctional.

    One thing DISCO got quite right was that Burnham was a fucking mess.
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    A fucking mess who must always be the center of attention.
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  29. Diacanu

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    So like Kirk in "Obsession" and "The Motion Picture".
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    Self-reflection, at long last?
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