The Great Writers Strike of 2023 is On!

Virtually all of those complaints have the solution built right in to your mentioning them.
Metoo.
Striking for rights.
Writers getting proper credit.
Indie people getting a chance up the ladder.
All of that's getting better.
"Burn it all down!" never gets that done.

What are you talking about? I am not saying there are not solutions at all. I am not sure how you think saying SAG and SWG both keep writing jobs within a small group of people approved by the industry rather than allowing outsiders with decent abilities an option to break in, and that they enabled many of the problems with metoo in their present system cannot do the right thing. Yes, there may be solutions, but clearly they do not enact them without being forced.

Metoo came out after decades of the hollywood unions covering up for blatant sexual harassment, assault, and corruption. They are not striking for rights, they are striking for their present club of elitists who do not allow outsiders to get jobs and join even at the proper pay. The indie people who get a chance need connections and to be approved or else they do not get a chance. Why that has changed some is places like GA banning things like SAG and SWG while becoming a cheaper alternative to overinflated hollywood prices.

I am not saying there is not a problem with going too low for media jobs, but one of the reasons hollywood productions were an out of control overpriced shitshow where only a select few could play was because of union elimination of independent access to limited venues. The internet is blowing up with creators who can now make a living doing creative things because hollywood no longer holds monopolies on distribution and presentation. Now hollywood is really worried because you no longer need massive video editing machines and super expensive equipment that is out of the range of low end production to make a product. Even more problematic for hollywood is that CGI is improving to the point where most people with some dedication can put together a product that looks good if they have dedication.

I know writers get screwed compared to actors, directors, and producers. However, I am not going to pretend that hollywood writers were in a very protected class of workers who kept most competition out. What they are really complaining about right now is that there are people who they did not fully approve of getting into the business and competing with them while the studios have had to spend less money competing with a mass of new creators hitting media like youtube.

In the area of creative art I would not call those trying to fight to have their ideas seen on some media venue as scabs. We used to call them starving artists because their passion for their art was something that had them sacrificing other non-artistic opportunities to do what they loved. There is no artist barista wanting to make coffee at starbucks because that is their art. That is why it is a scab who will work for a non-unionized starbucks. A person dedicated to the art of making coffee would be a person who opened up their own business and starved because starbucks is destroying them because they can use all their other stores to gain an advantage over the local coffee shop.

The Actors Guild Asks Its Members If They're Ready to Strike

Drew Carey buys lunch for striking writers and promises to do so for as long as the strike lasts. https://twitter.com/DrewFromTV/status/1659683101994536960

The strike specifically mentions AI, you utter fucking putz.

Jenee didn't know either, so you just hit her with the ricochet.
Good job.

I learned of my ignorance back in posts 54 and 55.

That makes it worse.
UA hair-triggers before reading the whole thread.

Mark Hamill just voted in favor of the strike.

https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/1659837226308747264

I'm hoping that when he shows up on the picket line, he does it in costume. Be pretty epic to see Luke Skywalker carrying a picket sign. Or the Trickster bouncing around and acting like an evil corporate overlord.

College Graduates Support Writers Strike, Boo David Zaslav at Boston Ceremony

So how long before Sloppy Joe forces the striking workers back to work because he needs his judge judy and family feud before him and his republicans sunset for the evening?

At the present state, AI is probably incapable of coming up with a way to replicate a typical formulaic sitcom/drama from scratch. Probably.

But what about 2 years, 5 years, 10 years?

As much posturing as people might want to do about how AI can't replicate the human spirit, it at some point will be very good at replicating patterns, and there's a pattern to most script-writing. I doubt that there will be an AI-generated equivalent of Breaking Bad or The Sopranos. But can you program enough base material for it to come up with a passable version of one of infinite cop shows, comic book shows, sitcoms? I wouldn't be surprised if you could do something close enough for a quick rewrite now.

And once that happens, without some safeguards, writers are going to dramatically be in a different environment.

I asked ChatGPT to generate a Batwoman script and here's what it gave back:

Obviously, pretty subpar and generic along multiple dimensions. But in a pinch, would someone build on this, or incorporate this into a published script?

why do you think all the weepy speechifying comes in so frequently?

Because that's how the current ctop of writers learned to interact with their parents, followed by the rest of the world.

Yeah, boomer writers were a tougher breed, that's why Garamet stomped your ass into a mudhole on a regular basis.

more like the AI is already doing the plotting... and has been for a while.

lookit the entire MCU... or any of the franchises.

But yeah, I suppose we could go back to jsut hitting kids and teaching them to repress emotions...

I don't think AI will ever be able to replicate the human brain. So I'm pretty sure writers will be safe in that aspect. Actors on the other hand might have to worry one day about being replaced by CGI.

Jump on a couch during a live talk show? Replaced by CGI...

AI might not be able to replicate the human brain. But it eventually will be able to replicate things that other human brains have created that still other human brains have widely enjoyed.

Throw enough data at something and you can discern patterns, and those patterns can be replicated.

Feed a bunch of successful scripts as input, or even unsuccessful ones, and you can generate enough of a knockoff that writers should be worried.

I think with the visual arts, we are already at the point where AI images can be cranked out such that the average person probably can't tell the difference between art created by an AI or a human.

While written language is probably harder to replicate or mass produce, I have no doubt that AI will likely get there within the next 20 years.

You mean she tapdanced and prevaricated on a hack level you can still only envy.

(As UA)
You are incapable of honestly portraying ANYTHING, aren't you!?!?

Right now, the issue is whether or not chatAI CAN plagiarize them.

whereas you do so in a way that would be pitiable, if you weren't such a childish little contrarian prick.

The Writers' Strike's Star Trek Picket Showed Solidarity Across Generations

Shatner and Stewart had to go to Viridian III?

Ok, that gets a

Netflix Caves After Writer’s Union Opposes Executive Pay Bumps