From Blue Oyster Cult. They didn't put it in the movie because it tells the whole plot for the Taarna episode. BOC just went ahead, and put it on their album "Fire Of Unknown Origin". 38 years, and I never stumbled on to this until now. Damn. Makes me wonder what else is out there.
Lyrics. Yeah, it's all of Taarna all right! . . . See them standing in the foothills Waiting for the kill On wings of fear the terror sweeps Into the city beat To defend This is the pact But when life's scorned And damage done To avenge This is the pact On wings of vengeance Taarna finds them Death for barbarians To defend This is the pact But when life's scorned And damage done To avenge This is the pact Flying over the oasis She is captured and they pull her down Feeling pain From the air Close my eyes And I am there I feel I'm falling down in a deep, dark pit “Pull him down,” the soldier said, “I'll put an arrow in his head” But the bird Flew off instead To save his master On his back she fled Her time has come Riding her bird High in the saddle She gets her chance to fulfill the pact now As their leader Swoops from the clouds She sticks him with her sword Then she throws him down The enemy shrivel and die The enemy shrivel and die To defend This is the pact But when life's scorned And damage done To avenge This is the pact
Interesting discovery. I will have to play that song the next time I fight a green bowling ball with my featherless chicken while wearing some pasties, a thong, some thigh high stockings, and my red hooker boots.
I mean, yeah, it's not exactly dance-able, but way I look at it, BOC were the only kids in the class who understood the assignment. America sung songs about unicorns for "The Last Unicorn". Don McLean sung a song about dragons for "Flight Of Dragons". Well, BOC sung about Taarna.
Yeah, about "Heavy Metal." Have you watched it lately? Because I tried to rewatch it a few years ago, and when I got to the part where a couple of the characters were bitching because they couldn't get a woman doped up enough to rape her, I had to check out.
I don't remember that. I remember the John Candy robot swooping in on the redhead secretary (with conventional seduction) before the two aliens have a shot, and they whine, and then they do space coke. I don't remember rape being part of it.
You're talking about this sequence, which has its own issues: I'm not poking around to try and find the exact bit I'm thinking of for reasons that should be obvious. But yeah, as someone who remembers the era when the movie was talked about in awe by the folks who'd managed to catch it in the theater, on cable, or via a bootleg VHS (which was how I saw it back in the 90s), I was a bit stunned by that sequence I mentioned when I found out it was available online legally now and decided to rewatch it, like a decade ago.
Well, either I'm naïve, or you're hallucinating, cuz I could swear I know that movie like the back of my hand. What little allusions to rape there are are from shady bad guy characters.
I thought I knew it too until I hit that part. I think it’s fairly early on in the film, but I might be mistaken. Either way, it was really distasteful.
Well, let's get out the lice comb... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Metal_(film)#Plot We've got "Soft Landing" no woman there, just a spaceship and a car. Then there's "Grimaldi" a dad, a daughter, and a green ball, and the green ball kills the dad. No woman there, and no man there to rape her. Then "Harry Canyon" Harry has consensual sex in that. Then "Den" Den has consensual sex twice, no drugs use at all. Then "Captain Sternn" where he's in a courtroom accused of all kinds of awful things which we never find out if they're true or not. All verbal, no sex. Then "Neverwhere Land" which is an artsy impressionist Fantasia style vignette added in the 90's. Then "B-17" all men and zombies, no women there. Then "So Beautiful So Dangerous" which you just admitted didn't have the scene you say you saw. Then "Taarna" which has no drug use, and Taarna kills everyone who gets fresh with her. Then back to the bookend story with the little girl and the ball. Sure you didn't see something in the sequel "Heavy Metal 2000"?
I’ve not seen the sequel. And I didn’t say that they raped anyone, just that they were complaining that they were unable to do so. It was in reference to a party that occurred off-screen.
The clooosest thing I can think of, is in "Harry Canyon" the girl who the bad guys are after faints in his cab, and he carries her unconscious to the police station, and a couple middle aged hookers are there, and go "she couldn't take it, could she, Harry?" and Harry goes "hey, kiss my ass! " and one of them goes "I'll do it for two bucks!". Kind of in the neighborhood, but not quite. Like I listed above, it could only even possibly happen in "Harry Canyon" or "So Beautiful So Dangerous".
I’ve never even heard of that. As I said, there’s no onscreen rape, just two guys talking about events at a party that happened offscreen. Why do you keep ignoring this fact and think it has to be something that happened onscreen?
So ... a reference to an inability to rape someone has finally shown up on a man's radar? has anyone here ever watched movie or heard a rock song that came out of the 60s, 70s, or 80s? UA likes to joke about the movie with the girl who refuses a drink by saying something about "rape culture". I've go news for you guys. EVERYthing from the 60s, 70s, and 80s was all about raping women. and if you think Heavy Metal is bad, try watching the MASH movie.
I don't remember guys talking about a party. Harry Canyon has no friends, maybe it was background characters?
Look, dude, I’m not going poking around to try and figure out the specifics of who said what in what scene. If you’re so interested, then rewatch the movie.
I've seen the movie a million times myself - have it on DVD - and I don't remember the bit you're referencing either, unless it was the Queen's guards talking to each other during the "Den" sequence. Maybe.
I once had a very realistic and detailed lucid dream that I saw a DC animated movie where Lex Luthor teamed up with Brainiac. The animation style was the realistic smooth style that "All-Star Superman" was done in. My dream created the whole damned movie. That dream leaked into my real memories, and I could have sworn on a stack of Necronomicons I saw that movie. But I tore the internet apart, and that movie does not exist. There is a Superman vs Brainiac movie, but it's in that stylized "Batman The Animated Series" style, and Luthor doesn't factor into it. My head-movie was actually better. But it didn't happen. It's not the only time; my lucid dreams made false memories of a Superman vs Hulk comic in a Todd McFarlaine style that doesn't exist, and a Spider-Man meets Carebears comic that doesn't exist. My deluded ass went looking for these things with rigid frustrated certainty! Nope, they were brain phantoms. I think that's happened to Tuckerfan.
I was probably well into my 20’s when it occurred to me that I dreamt, at like 3 years old, my brother had taken out his teeth - like my grandfather used. And that my brother had not actually removed his teeth. I love lucid dreams
It was the 80's, and rape was pretty damned acceptable. Remember Revenge of the Nerds. The good guys filmed the private areas of the sorority and sold the naked pictures to the campus. One of the nerds raped a cheerleader by deception. The movie played it off like these were great and heroic revenges. The only thing the parents around me gave a damn about was the nudity, and even that wasn't a huge issue. Not for nhothi8ng, but at least many of the females in Heavy Metal were powerful or could handle themselves. The only weak woman in Heavy Metal might be the secretary who gets taken on the spaceship. The girl at the beginning is the next savior of the human race. Den is a child who is forced to have sex by powerful women on another world. Harry gets played by the greedy woman who he rescued. Taarna may be fighting in a thong, hooker boots, and some pasties, but she kills everyone who looks at her funny. The women are overly sexualized, and so are some men like Den. They said make an adult animated movie and the artists went crazy with the titties and nudity. I certainly cannot say it was as bad as 80's comedies.
Oh, and here's the other two songs missing from the soundtrack. But at least they're in the movie. Black Sabbath E5150 Devo- Through Being Cool
Mob Rules is also the album title "Mob Rules" is on. The missing song is "E5150", also on the Mob Rules album, which is just the instrumental track when the green lava turns the barbarians green and evil. I always thought that was a missing score track, but it's actually a Sabbath track.
You're not wrong... there's a lot of bad sexual attitudes (to say the least) throughout the era. Stuff we recognize as objectification and "male entitlement" now. Porky's or Weird Science come to mind, or perhaps Revenge of the Nerds. MASH is something I've seen a comparable number of times to Star Wars (and maybe Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead)... The only two scenes I can think of where someone is drugged before sex are Painless' suicide and the Tokyo Colonel... Hot Lips is humiliated a couple of times, but never violated.
A woman doesn’t have to be drugged to be raped. And doesn’t need to be raped to be violated. The above reference was specifically about the (I think it’s) the opening scene in which they set out lawn chairs outside the women’s shower tent, then drop the tent walls.
You are entirely right that the dynamic of the 80's was still cringy as fuck. I cannot say I remember much of the movie of MASH and I think it was cringy and obnoxious when I watched it which is why I preferred the TV series which also included some abusive behavior from the heroes we were supposed to respect. Heavy Metal on one hand is really sexist and cringy. However, there are seeds of female empowerment in it. The female empowerment is undermined by the oversexualization, but you can see some growth coming from it, and it was one of the films that undermined the idea the hero and savior of a film had to be a man. As a product of it's time it did portray some strong female heroes and the talaxian story was a female warrior. I am not trying to say it is a good representation of women, or that you need to like it, but it was progressing away from the damsel in distress macho bullshit of the time. Now it should only be seen as historical example of how the progression was made and not as any sort of decent or good representation of women.