Another white asshole with a gun kills an unarmed black man.

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    When groups of 20-year olds quit randomly attacking 69-year old retired correction officers on subways?
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    How was this guy the asshole? According to the article, he didn't start anything. He only pulled a gun after he got punched.

    Good shoot. :shrug:
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  4. gturner

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    Well, pursuing them was sketchy, but if he spent his life as a corrections officer he's probably not one to walk away without restoring order.
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  5. Ten Lubak

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    Not really. The guy chased the victim down then started another confrontation and then shot him. I think a death could have been avoided here.
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    Yeah, pursuit's going to be a problem. The shooter may be able to claim he was attempting to detain the deceased person and, if the man resisted, that he was forced to defend himself. It's all in the details.

    I don't see any identification of the races of the persons involved.
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    Yeah, he shouldn't have chased after them. It's no longer defense at that point.
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    Yes, the victim bully could have chosen not to fuck with someone he thought was an easy target.

    Again, according to the article, both parties exited the train and then a struggle occurred, in the course of which one party was shot and killed. I'm sure more details will emerge later, but I'm not convinced of the "pursuit" angle.
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    It's worth mentioning, the so-called victim's accomplice was arrested, while the shooter was not. In NYC, not exactly the most understanding locale when it comes to defensive use of a firearm. The cops must have had some pretty solid evidence of what took place.
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    Some where around here their is a link to an Irish version of the Onion where they had an American police officer telling people that all of these videos of them shooting black people makes them look bad so wouldn't members of the public stop filming them? It would all be so much better if veryone just kept their cellphones in their pockets.
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    The article says "All three men were black." Since there were two aggressors and one man who was accosted, that means it was a black man who shot a black youth.

    14th's spin is not only a blatant distortion of the facts, but an attempt to cherry-pick a couple of details (like the fact that the article says they were "apparently unarmed") to make it into something it isn't.

    This is one of the worst cases of presenting a story in a way that is intended to fit a political agenda that I have seen in quite a while, worthy of Tererun or gturner.
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    The shooter was obviously at least an honorary white.
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    Not really. Once the kids started trying to get away it's mission accomplished. That did did just what it should do in this particular situation, which is a deterrent. That said I agree once they punched the old man they should expect
    whatever they get in return. But political times have changed. As a white you are expected to play the role of punching bag because it is obviously your fault the system is fucked up and biased.
    Regardless the "takeaway" here is don't fuck with old people. They have lived too long to put up with your shit
    and have no reservations about defending themselves.
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    As others have pointed out, the old man was also black.
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    HA! Boo-ya! Now we can take race out of the game and get down to the real problem - punks getting what's coming to them.
    I'm guessing the left will bury this story now since the shooter wasn't white. Damn this is in Reverend Al's backyard - he could
    have been all over this with a quickness. :doh:
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  17. Forbin

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    Geez, how hard is it to detain a deceased person?
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    It was avoided. His death. He should have said "Are you feeling lucky...PUNK?"
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    I don't care if he was green. Send these punks a message.
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    The subways have a lot of cameras in them these days, so that might have played a part in it.


    Also,



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    Here's another article - from Gawker, who doesn't really like white people - saying that the shooter was black and the victim was white.

    Link

    Even looking at the video, it's obvious the guy who got shot is white. :shrug:

    So the confrontation started on the train and it looks like the guy walked some ways to start another confrontation before shooting. What a hero. :dayton:
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    Maybe they were all trying to re-imagine the famous Epic Beard Man bus beat-down!
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    If true, then nothing to milk for the lefty agenda. :drama:
    Wait! Anti-gun people might get some mileage out of this - there's hope yet! :D
    Lessons learned for the shooter/all gun owners: if you can safely avoid a confrontation, do so.
    Lessons for the shootee: If you really want a Darwin award go out with some creativity!
    Try to pogo-stick on a slack rope across Niagra Falls or something. :jayzus:
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    And last I checked, the "victim"was white and the shooter was black. Another article I found made direct mention of their races, but the one in the OP didn't.

    I wanted to see who'd comment without actually looking Into the story, and if anyone would change their tune once the actual races came out. :shrug:
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    Sounds like you were running a social experiment on the board.

    :ban:
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