Atlantis/The Grreat Flood Was Real?

That doesn't mean that we wouldn't be fucked. It obviously caused a lot of havoc, if it it in fact that's what happened.

It's pretty scary if you think about it. One of the main points these guys were making is that we should take stronger measures to prevent them from hitting the earth, we have the technology.

If we have enough warning, we could divert it enough to keep it from hitting. But that's if we have enough warning, we only find out about some near Earth objects as they get extremely close to the planet. We could find out tomorrow that we're fucked.

That was another thing they brought up. There was an asteroid that was the distance of the moon that passed by and astronomers didn't see until about two weeks before it passed by. If it comes from behind the sun, we won't see it until it's already in the atmosphere.

It is a bummer, we're fleas on a dog running across a minefield. So far we've been relatively lucky, but time is long and species don't last forever.

Reminds me of the South Park episode with the lice. "My behbeh!"

i've reported this to the mods for @Dinner hacking your account, friend

It is over,

I;m pretty hammered replying to this so it balances out. but mostly because you're retarded and literally 7 years old and so it's easy for me being drunk to shut you down with one shot glass tied behind my back

What? Who?

What does that have to do with a worldwide flood and/or sunken continent?

What the hell does this even mean?

Yeah but Joe Rogan is a colossal tool and famed idiot. He literally does not understand science and believes the moon landing was a hoax.

No, that's not even the right word.

An ice "age" by definition does not last "weeks", it literally lasts years if not centuries.

Then about a thousand years later, 11,600 years ago another event happened which caused a rapid heating, again, weeks, not years.[/quote]
What?

So we've had submarines at much deeper depths than 400 feet below current sea levels in the Atlantic. Why the fuck haven't we seen an entire missing continent?????

or it could be that floods are a natural cycle of weather patterns affecting nearly every region independently of some fucking icebergs in the atlantic ocean

where?

i mean you definitely have amnesia because you are willing to accept a fucking lunatic like joe rogan as the gospel

I'd like to see some info on that. Oral traditions tend to get garbled within a couple of generations. We're talking about 300 generations, through many cultures, each that would be unrecognisable to another.

This is really a very good point!

https://www.newhistorian.com/aboriginal-oral-traditions-go-back-more-than-7000-years/4864/

An excellent resource: The Fatal Shore

The author describes how the Aboriginal oral traditions were preserved by literally walking the talk.

There's a free ebook version here: http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/robert-hughes/the-fatal-shore-400.shtml

I don’t like ebooks, I have to have a physical copy so I can turn the pages and make notes, underline things.

By all means, then, get a dead-tree version of this. You'll find lots of things to underline. It's over 600 pages, but very well written. You won't be able to put it down.

Yes that's what in fact happened. Comets impact vaporized much of the ice sheet and then it rained for a long time.

Longer version of the argument.


Condensed version.


I don’t know, I think I’m convinced.

Of what exactly? The actual claim seems very vague and shifting.

Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson returned to the the JRE the other day. Hancock has a new series on Netflix called Ancient Apocalypse. I watched the first episode and while it was short, it was quite interesting. He visits a site Gunung Padang which he posits is much older than originally thought. He believes that construction on the site began around 22kya. He believes that there was an an advanced civilization that existed at the time that lived along side hunter gatherers. The site appears to be a step pyramid.

I don't expect anyone to believe Hancock's theories are true and I don't expect anyone to watch the series, but I still believe there's some validity to the idea that there was a series of massive floods and rapid sea level rise around 9600 years ago that lead to the flood myths from around the world. That's not to say that I believe there was one flood that engulfed the entire earth all at the same time.

If you're interested, then check out the series.

At this point, I think it is very clear that there were civilizations that existed in the time we call pre-history or proto-history and I do agree that changing climate and geography eventually destroyed those civilizations, especially the flooding at the end of the Ice Age which massively changed the coastlines and connections between land masses.

Early hominids had already left Africa 2.5 million years ago as stone tools were found as far away as China and Southeast Asia.

Anatomically modern humans are thought to have left around 70,000-50,000 years ago and eventually migrated to all parts of the world by 20,000 years ago. During this time they likely fought with or interbred with the earlier human waves and eventually displaced them.

And yet established and recorded history only back to about 5500 years ago. And only in Egypt, Mesopotamia, and India. That is A LOT of time and geography that has not been accounted for.

We have found evidence for ‘prehistorical’ cultures in scattered places around Europe, Asia, and Africa. Gobekli Tepe for example is dated to 12,000-10,000 years ago but we know nothing else about it. Ruins have been found under the ocean along the coastlines of India as well as in places around Southeast Asia.

Unfortunately these older civilizations are likely lost to time as surviving records no longer exist and as time goes on these places will continue to degrade and erode away.

I do think many of these lost civilizations are now under the ocean or buried under the Sahara or were just wiped out by earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, and wars with neighboring tribes and civilizations.

All that to say, I don’t believe the story of Noah’s Ark actually happened. Some aspects of the story probably have grains of truth to them but have been mythologized and embellished over the years. Many cultures around the world have flood myths, but many of these vary widely in details and of course they could only describe what was happening in their local geographic region, which they each thought of as the entirety of their known world.

I’ll have to find the paper later but we’ve recently learned that some modern humans left Africa much earlier than our ancestors but they died/out were absorbed.

Apparently we have found some modern human DNA in Neanderthal DNA that is distinct from and predates ‘our’ DNA.

Still doesn’t explain Gobekli Teke.