Black Lives Matter

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  1. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Or Flashlight's an idiot. I saw a good explanation of this earlier, and rather than jacking the thread where the dim bulb opined on the phrase, I thought I'd just respond to him in a dedicated thread.

    So here's the deal on this. I don't think "all lives matter"' is racist. In fact, I struggled for quite a while trying to figure out why people had a problem with it.

    Imagine Flashlight at a dinner table with a group of other people. They are all served and start eating, but Flashlight still has an empty plate. He says "flashlight's meal matters!" Somebody else looks up and says "all meals matter." The others nod, and they all go back to eating.

    It's not necessarily racist, but I think it stems from a thorough misunderstanding of what the BLM activists are trying to say.
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  2. Tuckerfan

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    Somebody once explained it this way, "Saying all lives matter in response to someone saying Black Lives Matter, is like showing up at a cancer fund-raiser and saying there are other diseases too."
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  3. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Exactly this.

    No one pulls this when discussing Mexican immigration, or the history of Native American cultures or Japanese interment. But blacks call foul on our accomplishments being minimalized and suddenly, we're racists.

    Flashy's crybaby whine reminds me of that All in the Family episode where Mike's black friend gets the promotion he was hoping for and he assumes the guy only got it due to affirmative action.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I WILL CHARACTERIZE MY POLITICAL MOVEMENT BY NAMING IT WITH A NEARLY UNASSAILABLE PLATITUDE AND THEN CLAIM THAT ANYONE WHO TAKES ISSUE WITH MY POLITICAL AGENDA IS AGAINST THE IDEA EXPRESSED IN THE PLATITUDE!
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    Don't let dim bulb get you down. He knows there is a place for him in lockup if he tries to harm one of our delightfully brown American people. His mommy didn't raise him with any decent thoughts probably because she was a half wit herself. It is truly a shame how white Christian conservatives have taken to ruining their children's minds by filling them up with all sorts of tall tales and bullshit. Poor dim bulb never stood a chance of being much more than a pollutant to the gene pool.
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    Except that is not a good way to explain it. It should be this: "Saying all lives matter in response to someone saying Black Lives Matter, is like showing up at a cancer fund-raiser and saying that all medical conditions research should be funded."
    Real world example:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lexi-...m-a-mom-who-lost-her-son-to-it_b_7484662.html
    http://www.news-sentinel.com/news/local/CHD-kills-more-children-every-year-then-cancer
  7. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    I don't know what the issue is. I think we should be researching Flashlight's obscure mental disease just as seriously as cancer or how to end institutional prejudice against blacks.

    Flash Lives Matter.
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  8. 14thDoctor

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    There's no misunderstanding there. "All lives matter" is a a disingenuous slogan that intentionally misrepresents what "black lives matter" is supposed to be about. Just like the anti-abortion fuckwits that insist on calling themselves "pro-life" instead of "anti-choice." :shrug:
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    Black lives matter is not about black lives when killed by other blacks. A couple dead kids recently here in South Florida prove that. Not to mention the hundreds across the country. If there was real and loud outrage over every black life taken even if the killer was another black person I'd have a lot more respect for the movement. As of now though it's just another front for leftist agitators to create divisions among people.
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  10. Steal Your Face

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    Just like pro-choice only counts when it comes to abortion, but nothing else. You have no choice on how much soda you consume or whether or not you want to purchase health insurance, or pay into Medicare, or social security, the list goes on. Pro-choice my ass.:dayton:
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  11. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Sorry, but no.

    Most murders happen among others of the same race. Even between whites and Asians because in large part we group ourselves with similar folks.

    I did used to have this mentality, but that doesn't excuse the trigger happy cops that spray bullets and kill innocent children and pets during raids and such.
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  12. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    No.
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  13. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No what, the liberals aren't pro-choice? I agree.
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  14. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    You realize the soda thing was only in NYC, right? And that even there, that law was overturned less than a year later?

    If you need an explanation for why public health services are a good thing for everyone (ie, stopping the spread of communicable diseases like TB), I dunno what to tell you.

    I'm done bashing my head over the pro life/anti any life assistance after the "precious life" is born hypocrisy, but anyone who thinks slut shaming will work to end unplanned pregnancy is a naive moron that has no life experience. But then, I expect you'll graduate high school and go off to college eventually, so maybe some of the world will rub off. :bergman:
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    You know how I know you're not a real Libertarian? Because grownups are talking about government employees killing and assaulting citizens without consequence, and you appear to be more upset about soda and health insurance. :shrug:
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  16. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You weren't talking about that at all, you were talking about terms like pro-choice and anti-choice and the term black lives matter. At least that's the post I quoted. But thanks for telling me what I am.
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  17. 14thDoctor

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    Yes, and "black lives matter" is a response to the problem with government employees killing and assaulting citizens without consequence. Try to keep up.
    I didn't tell you what you are, I told you what you're not. :async:
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    You can dress the term up, but ultimately, pro-lifers are, as a general group, anything but. They pass laws that prevent even legitimate late term medically recommended abortions, vote down assistance to low income families and are a big reason why three strike laws and mandatory life sentences for non violent drug laws exist in some states.

    To liberals and even the converatives I know with working brain cells, this smacks of bullshit.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Also, Doc's last post.
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  20. Steal Your Face

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    So which one is it, do black lives matter or do all lives matter?
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  21. 14thDoctor

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    Did you even read the thread? :chris:
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    Black lives matter only when they're gunned down by the giant and powerful government they keep voting for.
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  23. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    The more everyone focuses on black or not black, the sooner the healing process can begin and the US can start to move forward from a point at which we will apparently never reach.

    So let's focus on black or not black faster and more intensely because we need to heal.
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    False dichotomies matter.
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  26. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    And let's not forget, Bloomberg is not a Democrat, nor a liberal.
    I have a right to spread disease!!!!!

    :droolingidiot:
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  27. Zombie

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    Bloomberg has been a Democrat his whole fucking life. Until he decided to run for Mayor of New York City.

    It was only because in 2001 that the Democrat field for Mayor was so crowded that he jumped to the Republican party in order to defeat the one lone Republican running for the Republican nomination instead of several Democrats in the Democrat nomination process. It worked because of two things: #1 The GOP is run by idiots who decided it would look cool PR-wise to have back-to-back Republicans as mayor of the city even though they knew Bloomberg was no Republican and #2 Bloomberg, the so called "Republican" was more Democrat in his campaign then the Democrats who were running.

    And two years into his second term he dumped the Republican party, I guess he felt politically safe in doing so, and became an Independent. So out of his 74 years of life he was a Republican for SIX years.

    And the soda thing? Took place in the third term with Bloomberg as an Independent. And the idea of the soda tax is still supported by the current Democrat Mayor.
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    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    Using all caps means you have strong convictions in this matter. FACT!
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  29. TheLonelySquire

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    But I thought we already give the blacks free meals, no?
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    Hmm...no bitterness there, huh? What went wrong when you were a kid?