California Says One Gun a Month, So...

I think I have an idea for a nearly perfect carry gun.

Take a Ruger LCR (or LCR-X, if you prefer an exposed hammer) in .327 Magnum and "Rhino-ize" it: make it fire from the 6 o'clock chamber, give the cylinder hexagonal flats, use the dead space between the low-mounted barrel and the front sight to mount a light/laser. And cut it for moon clips.

There are .327 loads (the Gold Dot, for one) that can get 430+ ft-lbs out of an LCR; that's 9mm +P territory. The low bore axis would nearly eliminate muzzle flip, and, even with a light gun/powerful cartridge combination, would make for fast follow-up shots. It'd be small and lightweight and easy to carry. And it would be very reliable.

Well, not exactly a new gun, but certainly a big update to an existing one.

The Yankee Marshal put this video out today...


And, yep, this is something I would really like to have. A Langdon Tactical slide--with decock!--that can accept an optic. And it even has raised sights to accommodate the optic.

My order is in! When it comes, it will replace the slide assembly on my M9A1. Now to pick out a red dot...

video says the 92A1 is incompatable.

It says the 92S and 92A1 won't work, but those are different from the very common 92FS and M9. The 92S is a really old model and the 92A1 is an odd duck, a 96 (read: beefier frame designed for .40) revamped for 9mm.

I think I'm good, though. I want this for my M9A1, but if it doesn't work on that, I have 2 92FSs I can put it on.

I think it will work, though. I just did a quick slide exchange between my M9A1 and my stainless 82FS and that doesn't seem to be a problem.



Edit:
From the Langdon Tactical website...

So, I'm covered.




Wait... @TheBurgerKing ... do YOU have a 92A1?

Because it just occurred to me, "odd duck" is kinda your modus operandi...

On a related note I think the next gun I buy for myself (after getting my wife a Sig P320 for Christmas) is going to be an M9A1 to keep in my truck.

No, mine's a 92FS that I've tinkered with somewhat extensively. I DO have "the basics" after all, and my eye for oddball is more for the caliber than the platform most of the time. The beowulf is on a standard AR-15, my .357 sig platform is a glock. I'd argue that even the Desert Eagle is a common platform. When I do go with odd platforms, it tends to be either meme guns like that pump action double barrel or things like the makarov or the nagant revolver i'm looking for.

The slide showed up today! Love the decock-only, though the suppressor-height sights look a little goofy without an optic.

Nice, I guess since you're in Cali a can will never happen?



Here's my new PTR91. I'm actually really liking the EOTech magnifier. I wasn't sure if it would clear the rear sight, but it's not a problem. The gap between the holosite and the magnifier doesn't cause and focus problems on the reticle. The eye relief is a little short, i have to put my cheek right at the front of the stock, but it kind of fits fairly well and I don't need a cheek riser.

My eyes aren't that good - Safe Empty and Full selector switch? Speaking of suppressors, why does it take forever/why is it much more difficult to get suppressors (even in a state with few gun controls) than it is actual guns? That just seems ass-backwards to me.

Its safe, Einshotten, and full semi auto. And as for suppressors, you have the NFA to thank for that. You see, the government declared certain types of firearms and accessories just too scary or dangerous for the hoi-polloi to purchase. Only those wealthy enough to pay four times the cost (at the time) of a Thompson submachinegun in tax (and vetted by the local constabulary and feds, of course) should be allowed such dangerous and scary things, and nobody called them on it.

What on Earth is full semi-auto? Mine just has S and E, and the E = semi-auto. I think yours might have an F either just for show, or your lower is set up to hold a full auto trigger group.

It goes to the third position, but both fire positions are semi auto, it's just for show.

German selector markings:

S = sichert 'safe, secured'
E = einzelfeuer 'single fire' (semi-auto)
F = feuerstoss 'fire burst' (full auto)

Good question! I understand the safe setting....I don't understand the "one shot" setting though. Is that one shot per trigger pull (which would be semi-auto) or does this literally mean one shot then reload? So maybe the F does mean full auto. Or I may be totally off-base here.

UPDATE I just read post #553 which cleared it up. It's just for show. I would not enjoy having to explain that to law enforcement!

February's gun (after a holiday hiatus)...

Ruger LCR .327 Magnum


I really like the .327 cartridge/lightweight revolver combination. You can get 9mm+P energy from a snubby, and the smaller bore allows an extra cartridge in the cylinder.

I have an LCR-X (same gun but with exposed hammer) in .357 Magnum and it's a lot of wallop in a very small package. The .327 trades a small amount of stopping power for a 20% increase in firepower.

I have an LCR in .38. I bought it as a backup carry piece but it's one of those guns I think twice about before pulling the trigger because it's so light.

Okay, question for @Paladin - given the number of firearms in your collection, have you put a rider on your homeowner's insurance to cover them against theft or loss? I have riders on mine covering the Persian rugs my wife bought and her jewelry. Mostly the wedding and engagement rings, which are platinum and diamonds and quite valuable.

Follow-up: how many safes do you own?

Paladin better have a couple at least. I have one small safe for valuables and important papers.

Sorry, I was referring to gun safes.

Yeah, I know. But I don't have but three long guns, and they're in locked cases but not safes. I was pointing out that I don't own a personal armory larger than the army of Poland, but I still have a small safe for other stuff.

I have not, but I'm about to change my insurance coverage and will inquire about a special rider for them. Back when I rented, I had a special rider for them on my renter's insurance.

I don't have much in the way of valuables (watches, jewelry, etc). I do have a few important papers I keep in the safe.

Only one, but I desperately need another. My current safe is absolutely packed. I have racks for 24 of my handguns and they're sitting on the safe's top shelf, with the smaller handguns tucked in underneath them. If I want one from the back, it entails a bit if shuffling to get it out.

I'm planning on a new safe (bigger, with electronic lock) but I need to clear a lot of stuff out of my house before I have it moved in. The room I keep my safe/gun stuff in is also my overflow storage room and it's full.

I was in the same boat until four years ago when my wife got me a second, much bigger safe with a keypad (way better than the dial on the other one) that I keep in the garage because it's too big and heavy to fit through our doors or go up the stairs. Between the two safes, only the bigger one is somewhat crowded, but that's because I separated the hunting guns from the non-hunting ones and the latter outnumber the former by a wide margin.

Make sure you set a reminder in your calendar to change the keypad battery once a year. Mine failed a few weeks ago and I panicked before realizing I could remove the pad and change the battery without losing the programmed combination.

DROSed the LCR today. Had to renew my damned firearms safety card (expired a couple of weeks ago).

The shop had a pretty sweet Riley AK on the rack and I was tempted, but self-control got the better of me. Also, it was $1150.

I picked up 200 rounds of ammunition for the LCR at something near regular price. Apparently, .327 Magnum ammo is not in high demand.

Whatever. I still think this gun/caliber makes a lot of sense. If Ruger could make a Rhino-like (firing from the bottom chamber) in a similar configuration, I think that would make for a near optimal pocket gun.

Next month's gun? Hopefully, a Steyr Scout.

No hopefully about it. Bought it on Gunbroker today.

OD Green, .308, 19" fluted barrel.


Surprisingly, they can be had for around $200 below MSRP. I guess bolt action rifles aren't selling like ARs these days.

Ooooooooooh I've wanted one of those for a while. What optic do you plan on putting on it?

How long is a while? You didn't even know what a scout gun was a year ago.

Got my hands on one at a gun shop in I want to say 08, was impressed by the quality of it, thought it would be a fun .223 plinking rifle.

Apologies, this answer was a long time coming!

I (just today!) put a Leupold VX-Freedom 1.5-4x scout scope on it. Haven't shot the setup yet, but it seems sweet. At 1.5x, the magnification is low enough that you can shoot with both eyes open, so quick target acquisition without loss of peripheral vision.



Ian McCollum at Forgotten Weapons has a good video on the limitations of the Scout rifle and how technology has pretty much moved beyond it for its intended purpose. I totally agree, though I still wanted to explore Cooper's original concept.