Candlelight vigil for Dayton Kitchens

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  1. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Mr. Ingenious Administrator Formerly Important

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    Dumb asses use SUVs.

    Pros use rental sedans.

    Rent the car, fill up the trunk with whatever you are transporting, throw your bag on the backseat and hang up a suit.

    If you do get pulled over they need a warrant to get into the trunk as you can’t access it from the passenger compartment.

    And if they do get a warrant: OMG officer! I had no idea that was back there. I just picked this car up yesterday from Hertz, I never opened the trunk!
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  2. CoyoteUgly

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    Uh-huh.

    Here's what's going to happen:

    You're going to be sus as fuck... nervous. The trooper will ask you questions about where you've been and where you're going... none of which you have to answer, but everyone makes up shit to seem innocent.

    At that point, the trooper will know something's up. He'll ask if you mind if he searches the vehicle. He'll ask if you have any weapons or anything illegal in the ride. Again, you'll act nervous.

    If you deny the search, as you should, he'll then say he smells marijuana and he'll tell you to step out of the vehicle. He'll detain you in his vehicle while he conducts a search, and yes... that includes the trunk.

    And that, my friend, is your ass.

    You might get a great defense attorney here in LR, like William James (who defends the scum of the Earth) and get off, but you're not leaving Arkansas today. Or tomorrow. But if you keep your big trap shut and deny searches, Bill might get you off.

    As to SUVs, if you're shipping large amounts of weed, like 5-6 of those giant yard trash bags, that's not going in a sedan. If you're moving a smaller amount of meth or something like that, then yeah, but meth is usually cooked and distributed in a small area.

    (An aside: Bill James is a helluva nice guy, but an absolute shark in the court system. I talked to him once about two years ago outside the county courthouse when I was in a jury pool, and I'd definitely want him as a defense attorney.)
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  3. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Pick up it and do it the day of, right after picking up the rental. Stop near a fast food restaurant and pick up food while the trunk is being loaded. Get the receipt, it will have a time stamp showing the stop right after picking up the car.

    But a K9 sniff and positive signal is enough to search the car, and if the officer doing the stop is a K9 then there was definitely a tip off.
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    If you get pulled over, to legally search your car they need a warrant, probable cause, or consent, usually just implied consent.

    Do not consent to a search. If the cop asks to search/says they're going to search, clearly state that you do not consent to the search. Repeat yourself every time they say anything about doing a search.

    If they have enough to get a warrant, you're probably not getting out of it.

    Probable cause, do your best not to give them any. They way they usually go about it is bring out a drug dog. They don't need much of a reason to bring the dogs out, and the dog alerting is considered probable cause (which is dumb because sometimes dogs alert because they want their reward, and the drug dog guy can just tell the dog to alert...) One can still get out of it if they make you wait an unreasonable amount of time for the dogs to arrive, but it's not a sure thing.

    If you're carrying stuff for personal use/otherwise carrying small amounts and want to avoid the hassle of spending a night in jail, the best place to stash it is somewhere out of sight in the engine compartment, probably not in the fuse box, though. The air intake is usually a good option (make sure it's secure and before the filter, not after.) It's where they're least likely to look that's still fairly easy to access.

    Not sure "it's a rental and I didn't look in the trunk" is likely to be enough to get out of anything. It's generally accepted that it's the renter's responsibility to inspect the car for damage and such before accepting it, and looking in the trunk seems like a reasonable part of said inspection. Still, if one has been arrested for drug trafficking, might as well give it a go. It might work.
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    Reminds me of when I was in college. When driving back and forth between Miami and Indianapolis, I'd drive through Tifton, GA. which had many signs along the highway proudly proclaiming they were "Now an internet city!"
    This was around 2002-2005ish, BTW.
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  6. ed629

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    Officers will phrase consent to search as "Do you mind if I search your car?", answering yes or no can be considered giving consent. "I do not consent to a search" removes the ambiguity.

    Also if they find Dayton's foot in the trunk, your gonna have a lot of explaining to do.
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  7. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I remember those signs. I was living in New York at the time, we'd drive to the Tampa Bay area a few times a year, sometimes we'd pick my sister up in Atlanta on the way down.
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  8. CoyoteUgly

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    "I smell marijuana" is PC.
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    Not always, but the only thing to you can really do is try to bust their balls in court if it comes to that. A few years back Idaho troopers got some bad publicity when they stopped a middle aged guy crossing the border from Washington and trying to bust him because they "knew" he was bringing in pot from Washington. I think his reaction was something along the lines of "really?" :brood: One of my former students was a retired Boise cop and he did not have a high opinion of state troopers.
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    I have a sense Dayton is somewhere on the other side, reading this thread and learning weird shit about traffic stops.
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    Cops love love love using ordinary minor traffic stops as a pretext to go fishing.
    You can't stop them from just making up some shit if for whatever reason they've decided they want to pull you, but you don't have to make it easy for them.

    Don't speed (up to 9mph over the posted limit is usually relatively safe).

    Signal your lane changes, turns, etc. and don't roll stop signs even if it looks like no one is around.

    STAY IN YOUR LANE. Drifting across a lane line is a huge "hey look at me!" to cops.

    Ensure your headlights, taillights, etc. stay in good working order.

    The little things. The piddly stupid little things that most of us rarely even specifically think about.

    If a cop simply feels like going fishing and isn't interested in you particularly they won't waste a lot of time following you "just in case" they can find a pretext to pull you because they know damn well the driver in front of or behind you probably isn't all that worried about following every little traffic law and will be a way more tempting morsel for that hungry bear.
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    Lemme know if you decide to hit up one of their gigs here then.
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    Yeeeaaaahhh, naw... I'm not going all the way to Oregon to see them.

    Last year, I almost drove down to Dallas to see them, but medical issues came up for me and Jen didn't want to go.

    An aside: she and I have toyed with the idea of moving to south Idaho or eastern Oregon or even up in Spokane, but I don't see it happening at our time of life.
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    Pretty typical drug bust on the I-40 near Lonoke.

    "I'm surprised you haven't been told to stay out of Arkansas!" :D

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    Best decision I ever made was moving to Boise. That said, there was a lot that went into that decision that may or may not apply to anyone else. :clyde:
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    More Arkansas shenanigans.



    The audio from the phone call at 2:45 is hilarious. You might have to turn it up to hear it.
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    Yup. That whole thing absolutely horrified so many people here when it came out.

    Additionally, it pissed me off she was wearing a KISS shirt.
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  18. ed629

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    Or entertained?
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    Uh-uh. Horrified. Everyone I know who saw it.
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  20. ed629

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    The husband's phone calls and his reaction to the the pink haired stepson was entertaining.
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    I'm not sure which would hurt Dayton worse: The fact that he died before humans went back to the Moon, or that the crew included a woman, a black man, and a Canadian.
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    Neither; the dead feel nothing.
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  23. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I never got the sense that Dayton was racist. He just thought of himself as superior to everyone, regardless of their skin color.
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    I bet Dayton was at least Brian Griffin racist.
    Keeps doing awful shit, and going "I'm sorry...I'm sorry...are we cool? *goes for the fist bump*".
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    It's a few days late, but I'm guessing he's not going to pop up and say/post "April Fool's Day!"
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    Well not here anyway. :bergman:
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    He told his black students that they would always be subservient to white people.
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    Well, crud.
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    Well, this is surprising news to come back to.

    I'm not sure what the appropriate term would be, but I remember him stating openly that American lives were worth much more than the lives of people from other countries.

    He considered himself a very devout Christian, but like so many other American Christians (I am using the term to refer to those who follow a particular religion, rather than as a reference to those who actually consider the teachings of Christ to be the guiding principles of their lives) he never seemed to get that "every nation and tongue and tribe and people" principle. There are a lot more "brown people" (of various shades) among the followers of Christ than WASPs.
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