Civil war: Whose side are you on?

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  1. Crosis36

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    No, you quoted what you thought was the law. But that's not the actual law.
    But my parameters were not subjective. There are no police forces that conceal their faces when not engaged in riot control. Or who don't have any visible means of ID, down to a simple badge number. Besides ICE.
    You don't have to "accept" it. It's documented by eyewitness accounts. As for your explanation of the fatigues, are you really going to claim that no other clothing can provide similar or even superior benefits?
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  2. Bailey

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    Ok, so let's take that as a given.

    That being the case what would you say if in the future cases emerged of them doing so, repeatedly, without reprimand or even actively encouraged?
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  3. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    ICE, like everyone, should follow the law. If they're breaking the law, they should be taken to court.
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    Kommander Ass butt?

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  5. TECotGB

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    Wait whut?
    How has anything I've poasted given the impression I'm right-wing, much less a nazi? Because I disparaged the democrats?

    Tell me you're in a cult without saying it out loud. LoL

    So the Biden regime preferred the "soft" authoritarianism of increased funding for police and the military while concentrating on behind-the-curtains social engineering and that makes him a good guy? No. It makes him an enabler of everything that's happened since. Like I said.

    In volleyball one person pops up the ball to allow a teammate to spike it over the net. The first player didn't do the actual spiking but without their assistance the spiker couldn't take their shot.

    Genocide Joe et al. set up the ball that Trump is now spiking.
    The only reason previous administrations haven't taken things so far is because the process hadn't reached that point yet; all the players weren't in position. The setup was obviously coming though and has been for decades.

    It's simply a fact that without the support and encouragement of the USA and its vassal states "israel" couldn't be slaughtering and starving Palestinians the way it has been for 2+ years. Genocide Joe may not have personally dropped any bombs on a hospital or apartment building but he's 100% an accessory/conspirator to those crimes.

    There are thousands upon thousands of names.
    Most are the names of women and children.
    Genocide Joe is and always will be known as a blood-soaked war criminal.

    He did that to himself; no unrelated reich-wing scribblings necessary.

    And again: if being to the left of the democrats makes me a "conservative" in your view maybe I'm not the one who needs a few mental adjustments.

    Just sayin'.

    Are you always this deluded or have you been saving it up especially for me? lulz
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  6. T.R

    T.R Don't care.

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    I never pegged Anc as a wacko. Just a very passionate lefty. But geez, threatening to cross state lines for a physical confrontation over a simple difference of opinion is as juevenile as it gets.
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  7. T.R

    T.R Don't care.

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    Yeah he's nuts. There are a few here with such high TDS that unless you agree with them 100 percent of the time will call you MAGA , fascist etc. They dont accept facts that conflict with their worldview and just spew insults when challenged. Best to just put idiots like him on ignore and move on.
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  8. notnick

    notnick lost, as usual

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    we have been supporting israel almost since it's inception even the rep. god Reagan . for years and years through countless 'conflicts' both reps and dems supported them but you can only come up with mean ole Joe as Mr. genocide damn grow up open your eyes you talk like a hack..... and 'only' ole Joe genocided the Palestinians?????? unlike good ole FF(biggest pun i could think of) history ain't your strong point so i would avoid it if i were you. thousands and thousands of names......years and years and years of weapon shipments thru countless administrations, yes their are, the United states has supported Isreal for just about forever but it is only poor ole Joe that is the genocide king. and you talk about delusion (well you certainly exhibit a talent for it same as your grasp of history). 'saving it up for you' no i have been in this world for over 70 years encounterd many people like you got fooled sometimes and hired them to work for me learned my lessons over the years and now i can spot a naive youngun who knows everything usually i just let them stick their finger in the electric socket and learn their own lesson but every once in a while i gotta call an idiot an idiot when it is this obvious. it's called experience and learning from your mistakes. remember when the only bad guy you talk about is on one side you are 1 sided genocide Joe indeed. genocide trump is giving them bombs and bullets to kill even more women and children but no mention of that!!!!! there ain't enough fucks i could give for you but your ideas and opinons are fucked up
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  9. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    seriously... this debate between burst and auto fire seems to be a lot like Paladin claiming a medium is a large or something-which only applies at Starbuck's.
    by his own definition, "automatic" is sustained so long as the trigger is depressed.
    "burst" fires two or three rounds per pull, therefore necessitating the trigger be pulled again after the first burst. If you just hold the trigger nothing will happen(yes?). Thus, not "sustained fire".

    two separate and distinct things which is probably why they're separate and distinct definitions.
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  10. notnick

    notnick lost, as usual

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    oh so YOU also think only ole Joe is a the genocider jeez are you only a prism with 1 facet??????
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  11. notnick

    notnick lost, as usual

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    what do you find dumb have we not supported them thru countless admins both rep and dem. and the only person he could come up with was Biden is that dumb??????? or is it that i am an opinionated old man you disagree with.
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  12. Crosis36

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    His whole point was trying to argue that AR15's, AK47's, UMPs, etc are not military-grade weaponry.
    Which is of course a ridiculous assertion, but here we are.
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  13. TECotGB

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    Aha.
    Yeah, unfortunately I've run into people like that before.
    They're generally well-meaning, even nice in other respects.
    But Trump has broken their ability to think or something.
    I mostly blame overexposure to corporate infotainment brainwashing.
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  14. Crosis36

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    That's like telling a Russian that Putin has broken their ability to think.
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  15. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    I think he's splitting the hair between the civilian and military models of the AR, the former of which isn't convertible to select fire and has preventative obstacles built into the design.
    Not that that means someone can't empty a 20-30 rnd mag in under 15 seconds...
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  16. TECotGB

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    *sigh*

    Look at pictures of Gaza before and after "israel" (with the USA's blessing and assistance) embarked on this Nakba v2.0 and tell me it's just the same ol' same ol'.

    This is next-level violent occupation and ethnic cleansing and yes, Genocide Joe has a lot of the blame in his lap.

    That's simply the reality of the situation.

    For the record:
    I'm over 60 myself and have actually been paying attention to geopolitics since the early 1980s. Not the sanitized propaganda that legacy media stenographers for the establishment have been pouring into people's brains like concentrated acid but the objective facts and context without the whitewashing, obfuscations, and lies.

    I'd say "you should try it some time" but at your age and level of irrationality I doubt it would do any good.


    Anyway... fun chatting and I hope we can exchange poasts on other topics that aren't so triggering for you but I think this one has run its course.

    Have a good one.
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  17. notnick

    notnick lost, as usual

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    paying attention since the early 80's that explains everything this reminds me of the Steely Dan song 'HEY 19' it came out in 1980 also, so gosh maybe you started following music then also and you will get it. so yeah let's go on to other subjects
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  18. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yep. I got FF’ed last night. Apologies to everyone but Paladin. Fascists can fuck off.

    Also three round burst IS NOT ‘full auto’. Saying it is a ‘type of automatic’ is true. But then again semi-automatic is a type of automatic.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    It was either gonna end the way it just did, or Anc and Paladin were gonna be dead with their hands around each other's throats.
    I didn't want 'em dead, but man, that meme would have been immortal.
    :diacanu:
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  21. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    "Apologies to everyone except the guy I threatened over a difference in opinion."

    :jayzus:
    My position was that militaries don't use semi-auto rifles as their main weapons. Weapons with burst mode are not semi-automatic.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yeah bad on me. Sorry. Had a bad night and got pissed off at fascists.
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  23. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    To be fair, he coulda stopped at "I never pegged Anc"
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  24. T.R

    T.R Don't care.

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    No worries. It happens to the best of us. Moving on. ;)
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  25. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    I’m not sure what part of ‘fascists can fuck off’ wasn’t clear to you but you aren’t getting an apology and you should fuck the fuck off IMO.

    See I might live out in Seattle but I am and always be South Alabamian.

    I am a simple man.

    I love my country. Fought in two wars for my country.

    I HATE the people who want to destroy my country.

    I hate you.

    I want you to fuck off and die.

    My country will be safer with you not in it.

    So no. No apology.
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  26. T.R

    T.R Don't care.

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    All I know is as a marine that was issued the M16 A2 , burst was an option that we never used because it would always jam. I served from 94 to 98 so I don't know what they are being issued now.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yep, that is part of why this discussion is so stupid: you always use semi!

    ONE SHOT ONE KILL!

    I have carried a three round burst M4, a full auto M4 and an M249 SAW (belt fed, 5.56mm, gas powered machine gun fired from the open bolt position [not being a dick, just not sure if they they had them in your day]).

    I got my SAW about two weeks after being in Iraq. Once my unit (I was a replacement) realized I wasn’t an idiot and was a good shot.

    However I had trained on it in Basic. You don’t want to burn ammo so even though it is a machine gun you want 3-5 round bursts.

    Pull the trigger DIE HAJJI DIE release the trigger.

    Again.

    DIE HAJJI DIE

    DIE HAJJI DIE

    DIE HAJJI DIE

    There are two heavy expendables in battle: water and ammo. Don’t waste either.
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  28. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    You wish death on those whose only offense is disagreeing with you. You're a sad, angry man who clearly has some deep-seeded emotional problems. I feel sorry for your kids.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    QED.
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    You wish death on millions of people, the difference between @Ancalagon and yourself is that he's open about your complicity in fascism, while you're just a coward who will let the system do it so you can deny any culpability.

    Your rhetoric only works on people who don't know your history.
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