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  1. K.

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    And there is at least one classic story that has several older incarnations in a brain probe memory sequence. I forget which one.
  2. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    The Brain of Morbius.

    The standard explanation now is that those were Morbius' earlier incarnations.
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  3. CoyoteUgly

    CoyoteUgly Fire Walk With Me

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    The only way that works is if you claim he's had access to more than 13 possible incarnations in the past (before the Hartnell incarnation, not the Matt Smith incarnation), and nothing has indicated that. We know from Mawdryn Undead and The Five Doctors, for example, that the Davison incarnation is the 5th, so Hartnell was the first.
  4. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    "The Doctor lies".
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  5. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Let me point out though that I don't like the whole "secret, never before heard of incarnation of the Doctor" trope.

    I only liked the War Doctor because of John Hurt. The concept of the War Doctor was, to me, awful.

    In fact, the longer this show goes on, the less I really like what they do with it. If I am being 100% honest with myself, I only watch it for the characters anymore. The plots are awful and they've thrown continuity out the window entirely.
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    by the way, not being a purest let me just say that in my head-canon, McGann was the 6th and the two between him and Davison were a fever-dream hallucination that Fifth experienced while he was dying.
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  7. CoyoteUgly

    CoyoteUgly Fire Walk With Me

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    He didn't lie in Mawdryn Undead when the villains wanted his last remaining eight regenerations.
  8. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Watched the last two back-to-back, but need to watch them again for nuance.

    But, my, what a sendoff!
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  9. matthunter

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    Extremely good ep, though had guessed the resolution for Bill. They did about as much as they could with her situation in terms of horror without making it too kid-unfriendly. Missy's line of "dead, dissected, minced and poured into a cyber-shell to spend an afterlife as a biomechanical psycho-zombie" was about as near the knuckle as it was gonna get.

    Psyched for the Xmas ep - both Doctors are afraid of changing, but One is afraid he'll be a different person, Twelve (having spent a long part of Series 8 realising) knows he'll always be "an idiot in a box" and that won't change, but he's TIRED of it. They'll mutually help each other see why going on isn't a bad thing.

    And if Moffat finds a way for that shared adventure to include Susan, I will bear his broodspawn.
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  10. Ebeneezer Goode

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    The finale was good, the lines especially brilliant.

    I was just a bit meh over how they resolved Bill-as-a-Cyberman and the Doctor getting away. It wasn't flashy lights, but it was still the equivalent of getting a giant Sooty puppet to tap her on the head with a magic wand and go "izzy-wizzy, let's get busy!" and *boof* all is fixed!

    I'm officially done wondering how they're going to resolve such things in the future, mainly as I know it's going to be Michael-Bay-on-indie-budget lazy bollocks.

    But Nardole's and Bill's arcs ended perfectly.

    The Master/Missy bit I enjoyed, but was a bit disappointed Missy didn't get chance to actually stand with the Doctor. Going to miss Missy, had she survived I'd have cheerfully enjoyed a spin-off series with her saving the day in a rather more nutty manner... "I'm here to save the day dearies! Oh, you won't all survive, but enough of you will - ever heard of a game called Lemmings?"

    Very much looking forward to the Christmas special though
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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  12. Nova

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    random question - has someone published an analysis of just how long (on screen time) that 12th has been the Doctor?

    I mean it'd be cool to have a breakdown for all of them, basing estimates on in-world comments about "well he spent a thousand years doing this or that" but at least someone must have tallied up those notation for 12th, right?
  13. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    13th Doctor will be revealed Sunday.
  14. We Are Borg

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    FTFY.
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    14thDoctor Oi

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  16. Diacanu

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    (That Sunday)

    *14th doctor runs out into the middle of a football field naked, and erect*

    14thdoctor- I'm free!!! I'm freeee!!!!!! :happytears:

    Crowd- :yays:
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  17. We Are Borg

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    No, seriously.

    Capaldi is the 13th Doctor. (I don't give a shit what the Beeb says.)

    You can thank Steven Moffat for fucking up the order by squeezing in the "War Doctor" for the 50th anniversary.
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  18. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Other than the fact that we got John bloody Hurt as an official incarnation of The Doctor, I too hate the concept behind the "unknown and forgotten and ignored and un-numbered" incarnation of the Doctor.

    I'd have been (almost) as happy with the 50th Anniversary if it were Paul McGann in John Hurt's place.
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  19. matthunter

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    Technically, he's the 14th, since RTD pulled the "regenerate into myself" thing with Tennant. Otherwise he wouldn't have been out of regens on Trenzalore.
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  20. We Are Borg

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    ^^^ Good point!
  21. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Correct. He's actually either the 14th Doctor (Volume I), or the 1st Doctor (Volume II).
  22. K.

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    He is the Doctor's 14th incarnation, but why is it hard to accept that the Doctor is in several minds about how many of his incarnations count as Doctors? For most of the series' lifetime, his regenerations were mysterious, always implying that it was a complicated issue.
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    1.jpg

    Interesting :)
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  24. Diacanu

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    Oh good. :)
  26. matthunter

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    Same reaction to as if it were a bloke - as long as she's good I've got no problems.

    Usual twunts on Twitter/FB moaning about how the Doctor is a male role... umm, hyperintelligent alien regenerating genius who roams space/time defeating evil and you wanna focus on "has a knob"?
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  27. matthunter

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    Pic - not sure if this will be the actual outfit as is a bit underwhelming:

    ETA, it'll be OK if they mix up the colours a bit like they did with Capaldi.

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  29. matthunter

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    Apparently she's said this isn't going to be her final costume. Some have even speculated she might dye the hair - the only possible reason I can see for that is her similarity to Jemma Redgrave who plays Kate Lethbridge-Stewart which might cause confusion in long shots.
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  30. Dan Leach

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    I hope they make her ginger... or is her look set in stone now? :)
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