Hero with handgun foils terrorists

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  1. Spaceturkey

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    Hate Crime Is Feared as 2 Indian Engineers Are Shot in Kansas
    OLATHE, Kan. — Kansas reeled on Friday as a shooting at a bar, which left one Indian engineer dead and another injured, escalated into an international incident amid fears that the attack was motivated by bias and hate.

    The authorities in the United States, including F.B.I. agents, are investigating the shooting as a possible hate crime, and India’s government expressed shock over the episode in suburban Kansas City.

    In New Delhi, the episode raised new alarm about the treatment of foreigners in the United States, where President Trump has made clamping down on immigration and refugees from predominantly Muslim countries a central part of his “America First” agenda.

    The attack occurred around 7:15 p.m. Wednesday at Austins Bar and Grill in Olathe, Kan., southwest of Kansas City.

    At least one witness said that the gunman, identified by the authorities as Adam W. Purinton, 51, yelled “get out of my country” before opening fire, The Kansas City Star reported. A bartender at a Clinton, Mo., restaurant where Mr. Purinton was later captured said he had heard him say that he had killed two Middle Eastern men.

    A 24-year-old American man who tried to intervene after he reportedly heard the gunman utter racist slurs was shot and hospitalized.

    Citing judicial ethics and the continuing inquiry, investigators in the United States have offered no specifics about the allegations against Mr. Purinton, who was charged on Thursday with one count of premeditated first-degree murder and two counts of attempted premeditated first-degree murder. The federal government could ultimately try to bring civil rights charges against Mr. Purinton.

    “Our role in this investigation is to work jointly with local law enforcement to determine if an individual’s civil rights were violated,” said Eric K. Jackson, the special agent in charge of the F.B.I.’s field office in Kansas City, Mo. “It’s not uncommon for hate crime investigations to be conducted jointly by the F.B.I. and local law enforcement and prosecuted under the state law.”

    Mr. Purinton was jailed in Henry County, Mo., before his extradition on Friday morning. Stephen M. Howe, the district attorney in Johnson County, Kan., said Mr. Purinton’s bond had been set at $2 million.

    Mr. Howe’s office did not immediately respond to a message on Friday. A spokesman for the Olathe Police Department referred questions to the prosecutor’s office.

    In Johnson County, at least, Mr. Purinton has had few run-ins with law enforcement. Court records show a thin history: a speeding ticket in 2008 and a 1999 drunken-driving charge that was dismissed.

    He spent time in the Navy and, according to a website where veterans can list their military record and find shipmate lists, he was deployed aboard the U.S.S. Long Beach, a missile cruiser, from 1988 to 1990. Mr. Purinton, who has held private pilot and control tower operator certifications, also worked for the Federal Aviation Administration, which he left in 2000, according to agency records and a spokeswoman.

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    Adam W. Purinton was charged on Thursday with one count of premeditated first-degree murder and two counts of attempted premeditated first-degree murder.CreditHenry County Sheriff’s Office, via Associated Press
    The dead man, Srinivas Kuchibhotla, worked for Garmin, a GPS navigation and communications device company. The wounded Indian man, Alok Madasani, also worked for Garmin, according to the Indian government. The men were in their early 30s.

    Many immigrants in the United States have been voicing concerns about the policies and language of Mr. Trump, who has ordered restrictions on immigration and a sped-up deportation process for undocumented immigrants. The F.B.I. reported an uptick in hate crimes in the United States last year.

    Thousands of Indian technology workers have come to the United States under the H1-B program, which grants skilled foreign workers temporary visas. But the potential tightening of that program has raised concerns in India, where many young people dream of studying or working in the United States.

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    what bothers me most is that bit I bolded. This racist psycho was exactly the type of "Average American" who you'd expect to be the good guy with a gun. Who's arguably proven himself as qualified to carry in public as any of you based on both military service and no felony record. What cause would anyone have had to deny this guy his right to bear arms in public?

    well, at least up to the moment he had that one last shot of courage and snapped...
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  2. Fisherman's Worf

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    1) Fuck this guy, and fuck Trump for enabling psychos like him to feel validated in their racist thoughts.
    2) Fix your fonts--I'm not sure which text is yours and which is the article's.
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  3. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I look at the picture of that guy and I would not give him a watergun. Sharp objects would be out of the question. He is just one of those people you can see is off, but despite the people shot I guess I would be wrong.
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    Nevertheless, Republicans believe he should own an assault rifle.
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    Ditto. Also wouldn't let him near children. He's got the look.
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    yeah, not sure what happened with the fonts... it got wonky
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    Weird, I read the article and it never mentioned what type of weapon he used. Wait, he committed assault with a gun (of some type) thus said gun must be an assault weapon.....got it!
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  8. Spaceturkey

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    does it really matter what kind of gun it was? I mean, it's a safe bet it wasn't an WW2 era rifle. Although, given the third victims statement that after hearing 9 shots he presumed the guy to be empty, is there a good reason not to expect it was a pistol?

    Anyway, it truly doesn't matter. Early 50s, ex military, worked in aviation support, kept his nose fairly clean.... dude, he could be you up to the part where he killed two dudes for being the wrong colour.
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  9. Tererune

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    I would not leave him alone with my 6 pack because of that same look, and I hate beer.
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    I'm not referencing the article, just stating general facts. Do you and @Captain X disagree that Republicans are in favor of loose restrictions on assault rifles?
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    He could be literally HUNDREDS of guys within ten miles of my house. Yet (amazingly) none of us went ape-shit. :chris:So while indeed tragic, it is far from typical.
    But don't let that stop you from blowing things out of proportion, or letting your imagination envision an army of middle-aged ex-military hunting down foreigners. :drama:
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    Again, please define "assault rifles." :chris:Anything black and military/scary looking? :drama: Republicans are not in favor of loose restrictions of military-grade fully automatic weapons as far as I know.
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    This is what I love about you guys. You have no idea why someone like this boob would get violent. Every day he is told by his friends like you, and media like faux news that these immigrants are all to be feared. The ones that are not violent are going to make us all live under sharia law. They take all of our jobs. They all rape women. They are all part of a Technicolor to dwell white Americans while taking over their land. Then the guy gets a few in him and he does nth remember it is all rhetoric and he has things pretty good.

    Free speech is a lovely way to encourage hate and killing when you are too chicken shit to do your own dirty work. Sure there are not as many nuts bars who will actually pull the trigger, and your cowardice is a good thing. That does not mean you don't push others to do it for you. This is why I do not respect the calls for a violent right wing uprising. There are not enough patsies to do the dirty work for you.
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    Yeah, it is real hard to make the AR fully auto. You would actually have to Google instructions or look it up on YouTube. Do you know how hard that is? It is good that none of those gun guys know anything about guns or else they might chose the AR as a legal semi auto because it is easily converted. And olddouche might think the opposition would fall for the bullshit that the right opposes fully automatic weapons for the public.
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    Thanks for the inaccurate broad brush job! :cool: Where to begin?
    1. I don't tell anyone that immigrants are to be feared
    2. Indians are generally Hindu, which has nothing to do with Sharia Law - so why would I associate the two ideologies?
    3. I am not afraid to "pull a trigger" by any means, but I have no desire to shoot anyone who does not present a credible threat
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    1. with your reputation I don't believe it.
    2. Do make sure all your squirrelly friends know that.
    3. I do jelly t blame you for not wanting to go to jail for killing an Arab, but I am sure you would take the opportunity happily if presented.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    again you show your ignorance of any actual "hands on" shooting experience with the AR-15 platform. There's no point to modifying an AR-15 because you can shoot semi-extremely fast with practice, and keep your shot group tighter than with "BURST. Also that would be a violation of Federal Law and most people who own and shoot an AR-15 have well paying jobs and crystal clean criminal records - you may not be able to relate to that demographic of course so your ignorance is taken with a grain of salt.
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    :lol: and what is "my reputation" miss know-it-all? 22+ years of working with, under, and over a racially, ethnically, genderly? and religiously diverse workforce with zero negative incidents? Yeah, that is some shameful behavior! :nono: Don't forget my security clearance that BTW 90 percent of my "squirrelly" friends have.
    I have had opportunities to kill "Arabs" (who hasn't in the sandbox in today's military?) but not being hair-triggered/psychotic/violent I didn't even like having a loaded weapon to be honest. Anything else you can be totally 180 degrees wrong about? The night is young!
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    I would like to hear more details about the case. Some repprts say they argued about who cut in line. It is still violence and murderers deserve to hang but there is a tendency to say victim is X race, perp is y race, ergo hate crime. Only when y equals white.

    It is possible it is and possible it is not. Right now I have insufficient info.
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    Btw India's president is a gangster who has openly called for sectarian violence in the past and has lead riots to kill the opposition and destroy religious sites so fuck India.
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    That thing usually is wrong. That is what happens when it is babbling in a meth induced mental fog. It needs rehab and years of inpatient care for it's many mental illnesses.
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    Yes, the number st Ann coulter instruction is to avoid the error you made and change the subject. But let us bring this back to your bullshit. Your original point was that the government does not like loose restaurant fictions on full auto rifles. Are you telling us that you are wrong considering the AR is one of the better selling rifles the government has loose regulations on, and it can be converted easily to full auto by design. So really the government allows for the sale of semi auto assault rifles that can easily be converted to full auto by anyone.

    As for your attempts to change the argument I am ok or also not convert as semi is better than special at and pray. That all goes ment has nothing to do with how the government is not really regulating full auto weapons. So take that bullshit Anne cunter argument and shove it up your old bitch ass.
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    Well guys like him have killed more Americans than terrorists so by Trump logic we should start mass deportations.
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    And whatever demographic you fall into has never went ape-shit and killed anyone? Congrats, you have reached the high point in the evolution of civilization.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    So because an Ar-15 can be (yet rarely is) converted into a fully automatic weapon, the government isn't controlling automatic weapons to your satisfaction? :unuts:
    I can convert household cleaning products into a bomb - should we ban all cleaning products? BTW here is a link to converting a semi to full - not as reliable or safe as you think, not that you seem to do much thinking as much as ranting.
    https://blog.robballen.com/Post/3239/gun-myths-the-easy-conversion-to-full-auto
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    as usual, you got it wrong.
    my point is exactly that there's that one in a million that will go off the deepend like this, and that there's no way to filter them out. none of you has gone apeshit... yet. Like I said, this guy sounds a lot like you up until the moment his bigotries took him over the edge...
    I have no visions of an ad hoc, vigilante army of retired military (although, there are a few precedents)... again, almost the exact opposite. One nut job like Dylan Roof (also able to legally buy and carry, IIRC) inspires imitators like this guy or Benjamin McDowel.
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    Incidentally, I've just seen a stat claiming that more US cops have been killed in recent years by members of the "sovereign citizen" movement than by Islamic terrorists.
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    It wouldn't surprise me! IMO a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. For some reason Space Turkey thinks everyone who uses an AR-15 is a white conservative bigoted male on the edge of going crazy and being that the AR-15 (or any military looking weapon) is the only weapon anyone can possibly use when going on a crazy killing spree, thus there are thousands of ticking time-bombs out & about. Then again he's probably a "city boy" who doesn't associate with too many people outside his urban safe space bubble. Bear in mind killing sprees account for a small percentage of the total homicides and there is a much greater chance of getting struck by lightning than getting killed by someone with an AR-15 but don't tell him that.
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    So you have some proof it is rarely done, right lying sack of trump bullshit? The reality is it can be done easily by someone not to technically inclined. It is made that way on purpose as a word of mouth selling point. So yes that is a trumpet level attempt to control automatic weapons when it is on one of the most popular American assault rifle models for public ownership.

    You are a fucking ass for even suggesting that is crazy. This is why you are an official guntard.
    Now Old guy Anne cunter has lost again so he changes to yet another bullshit talking point. Yes, we do sometimes ban or regulate household things that might be dangerous. You would have trouble buying tons of fertilizer today. We do limit certain knives and stabbing weapons. But other household items have a use aside from killing. A gun has not other use. This is a terrible attempt to defend your fucked position.


    You lost and are wrong. Just be wrong and stop being a trumphole.
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