I would agree that the way she treated her child was insane, wrong and heinous. (Indeed, I listed it as among the many things that Bernadette did wrong.) I would say that there's an argument that doesn't necessary make her a villain, because she was doing it with noble intentions and from a place of love. There is an equally valid counterargument that the fact she started off with noble intentions and from a place of love doesn't change the fact that she's a villain, and even that it makes her even more villainous. But the key set of questions I had for you you left unanswered: Given that you view her as a villain, doesn't that undermine everything she says about race? Seems to me if the writers wanted a simple "white people are evil" narrative, they could have put it in the mouth of a person who was not so questionable with her decisionmaking. Indeed, if anything Bernadette undercuts the idea that the show is saying that white people are the problem. John Sr. fails about as objective a test as there can be: Are you afraid? It's a binary result, Y/N, and he gave the wrong answer emphatically, for reasons that have nothing to do with his race and everything to do with being scooped up by a green energy bubble from out of nowhere. The question was posed to him by an AI from a species that has no concept of race as humans know it. The AI gave John Sr. the first shot at wearing the ring (or at least, a shot before Hal got his -- I suppose it's possible that it tried and rejected candidates before John Sr.) and he failed.
Are you fucking kidding? Fucking America. Your whole grifter-programmed deal is bawling that you might possibly get one less cookie in your box of cookies.
So you only like shows where every character only expresses ideas you agree with. Hero, villain, doesn't matter, they all have to conform to your personal belief system or it's boring. This is what I was referring to when I said you have the literacy capabilities of a third grader. No wonder you care more about the cool ships in Star Trek than all that boring talking.
Or they could just spare me the same race politics commentary I've seen so many fucking times. I don't need to hear about my beliefs OR anyone else's. Your opinions are as worthless as ever.
You assume the writers hold her to the same standard as the other characters, and aren't making allowances for her "oppressed" status.
Right. If one kid in class has already mastered algebra, the kids encountering it for the first time are just SoL I guess?
Or the rest of us can never be allowed to stop hearing it. And who are these mythical beimgs who have never heard this shit before? It's not a kid's show.
John Stewart's entire reason for existence is based around race politics. If you don't like that, this is not the show for you. Don't trip on the way out the door.
Right. Because if I understood it I would obediently reaffirm it in exactly the prescribed manner. Fuck off with that.
Who said anything about reaffirming it? You aren't even willing to sit with the ideas presented. You're fragile white male ego was so damaged you can't bear to give it more than a passing thought.
How many iterations of John Stewart are there? 1) The comic 2) The cartoon. And i was a little old for the cartoon when it came out, so i never watched it. But I guess it makes sense that you would prefer your entertainment to not rise above that level.
You obediently reaffirm capitalist "human nature sucks, suck it up" propaganda like a good little boy. Ain't no rebellion in your ass. Despite all your posturing towards resistance to an imaginary collective. You're plenty damned collective to hipster beardo Nazis.
Because I don't fucking need to hear it again. Read this very carefully: It is nobody else's place to tell me what should be on my mind.
Does every single person of colour? No. Are they also privileged? You're just selling the tired old bullshit where everyone is a marginalized victim or privileged oppressor based on nothing more than their inherent traits, and pretending it is the "enlightened" position.
It's not all or nothing, binary-boy. Everything's tired bullshit to you because your strawmen are tired and tiring. Being tired is the point of the propaganda you eat. Tired people don't rebel.
It is if you want it assumed by default. Acknowledging exceptions on one side tacitly acknowledges them on the other. This was no rebellion. It's just shoehorning in repetitive propaganda wherever you can, whether it fits, is welcome, or not.
Your judgement is devoid of honesty, and therefore worthless. When other people were reading comic books, I was reading novels. But yes, the Timmverse animation was worlds more entertaining than this. Was.
On behalf of the writers of Lanterns, I would like to apologize to UA for telling him a story that he apparently has heard before, as opposed to those stories that he likes in which race is not a factor, which he has also presumably also heard before. They have failed to entertain UA, which should have been their primary goal, as opposed to educate or challenge him. Any discussion on their part of race was to work out their own junior high school issues, and not an attempt to actually say something or entertain. /s/ As posted above, the very creation of John Stewart was as a consciously Black superhero in the 1970s. Literally, his first appearance has him complaining that people aren't hiring black architects like him, him talking smack to some cops, Hal questioning whether John is a suitable candidate before being told by a Guardian that they don't see race, and John uncovering a plot by a racist politician who was hoping to fire up black/white tensions to win votes. There have certainly been some times when the fact that he is black is not really a factor. Primary in them is his appearance in the cartoon Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. Perhaps not so coincidentally, that is probably his most popular incarnation. But certainly, race and diversity have been issues in comics featuring John Stewart, including a series Mosaic in which he oversaw a world which pulled together people from various cultures. TLDR: getting in your feels because something involving John Stewart raises racial issues is like getting made that there's kissing and romance in a Hallmark Christmas special.
Systemic racism doesn't exist if they miss a guy. Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. Welcome to the experience of listening to you parrot Nazi Youtube.
