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  1. Diacanu

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    Citation needed.
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  2. Uncle Albert

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    There is a difference between it being a factor and it derailing an entire mediocre season with a tiresome monologue about privilege.

    It's not the world's biggest outrage, but look how ridiculously buttsore you people get at the suggestion that I don't need to hear it again. How dare anyone reject their struggle session??? You will sit in your guilt like a good little white savior!
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  3. Uncle Albert

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    And privilege cannot be discerned by skin color.

    Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

    And who is a nazi? Anyone who disagrees with you and Amaris.
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  4. Diacanu

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    It's episode 3 of 8.
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  5. Diacanu

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    Speed through a stop sign, and try the "whoops, I thought I stopped long enough" gambit.
    Now try it it with a "fuck Trump" sticker on the car.

    I'm not the one doing the catalogging.
    I'm just pointing at the ones doing so.
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    I read Jurassic Park, Sphere, Congo, and Disclosure when I was 9, so your boasting doesn't mean much.

    And you are conveniently forgetting the bitching and moaning people did about JLU using Stewart instead of one of the white lanterns. So even if the show didn't address it, the issue was still there.
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  7. Crosis36

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    I'm more offended at the gross lack of literary insight on your part.
    I couldn't care less whether you agree or not. I find your stupidity more galling than anything.
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  8. Diacanu

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    Hitchhiker's Guide quadrilogy (part 5 wasn't out yet) at 7-8.
    And the obligatory stuff like Treasure Island, Robinson Crusoe, Three Musketeers, etc.
    And I still got all my comic books in.
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  9. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I know we've gone over this in other contexts before, but what the hell.

    I'm guessing that you, like most non-incarcerated males, have not spent much time wondering "Is this person going to try to sexually assault me?"

    I'm guessing that you probably know that most women do have to concern themselves with that on a regular basis.

    Yes, there are examples of men being sexually assaulted by both women and men, but it is not something that most men have to be on their guard about constantly.

    You may bristle at the term, but never having to worry about sexual assault in this way is a privilege.

    And like it or not, there are equivalent things based on skin color.
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  10. Uncle Albert

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    The outcome will be exactly the same, because I'm not a perpetual victim who throws a belligerant toddler tantrum at the sight of a badge.
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    You are free to believe that nonsense, and I am free to disagree. ESPECIALLY when it is invoked as a claim to lesser accountability or special consideration.
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  12. Diacanu

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    No, just black people.
    Sure you don't wanna be a cop?
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  13. Crosis36

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    What the fuck are you even talking about?
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  14. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    No one is saying you aren't free to disagree.

    But I'm curious if you do in fact disagree, what part(s) you disagree with and your basis is for your disagreement.

    Do you disagree that most males who are not incarcerated do not concern themselves about the possibility of your being sexually assaulted?
    Do you disagree that you don't concern yourself about the possibility of being sexually assaulted?
    Do you disagree that most women DO concern themselves about the possibility of being sexually assaulted?
    Do you disagree that not having to worry about being sexually assaulted is beneficial?

    What, exactly, about any of the above from my post is "nonsense"?

    And no one is invoking this as "a claim to lesser accountability or special consideration" here.
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  15. Diacanu

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    Remember when Rodney King didn't get beaten, and never had any trouble with the law ever again because of the special treatment us dirty lefties gave him?
    Remember that?
    Boy, that version of history sure does make me angry.
    I should yell at pink haired teenagers about it.
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  16. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I don't feel buttsore, or really, anything at the suggestion you don't need to hear about race again.

    I'm just questioning some of your assertions and ask you to explain some of your thinking.
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  17. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I should modify a previous statement that I made, where I said that John Stewart in the Justice League/JLU cartoons was not depicted as consciously black. One of the powers that behind that cartoon was Dwayne McDuffie, who happens to be black. And while there were not as pointed examples of John's blackness coming into play as in the comics, there were presumably moments like this one that I was reminded of by the Internet:

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...1pzqzqP24UW64hBxbBoNkkzEnu6iJmZw3xwACXmA&s=10
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  18. Crosis36

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    Any time I see that phrase, "happens to be Black," I think of the George Carlin bit.

    Thank you for highlighting that, though. I've never really watched JLU and didn't realize they even had moments like that.
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  19. Uncle Albert

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    I obviously disagree that these concerns amount to a claim to special consideration. What they are, are reasons to learn to conduct yourself in civilization.
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    Every black person is not Rodney King or George Floyd. Some are just assholes looking for excuses, and there is no virtue in pretending otherwise.
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  21. Diacanu

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    Go dig up the Bill Cosby thread, and find all the posts where I think he's wonderful.
    Go ahead.
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  22. Uncle Albert

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    I think there was a line or two like that in the WWII part of The Savage Time arc, too.
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  23. Uncle Albert

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    Why would..

    Oh, I get it. You hold one person of colour accountable, and you get a blank check to sit on the belief that the rest are marginalized victims who cannot be held to the same standards.
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  24. Diacanu

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    Nope.
    Swing and a miss.
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  25. Uncle Albert

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    Bullshit. That's exactly what you were going for.
    "Nuh uh! I condemned Bill Cosby, so I get a free pass for life!"
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  26. Diacanu

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    :no: :sigh:
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  27. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I'm not familiar with the George Carlin reference.
    Not to go too deep down this direction or else we'll be firmly in Red Room territory, but if you mean that "every black person is not Rodney King or George Floyd" in the sense of "not every black person gets beaten or killed like they did," that point is meaningless when I'd say pretty much every black American is at most one degree of separation from several incidents of police brutality or misconduct. Now one could argue, well so are a lot of other people of all races. And one can even agree with your statement that a lot of black people are just assholes looking for excuses.

    Indeed, there's a fair argument that most black people are "not Rodney King or George Floyd" because those people were actually breaking the law before what happened to them (not, of course, that that justifies what happened with them). While so are some of the people who allegedly suffer police misconduct (of any given race), a lot of them are largely or entirely innocent of any lawbreaking.

    Anyway, no one (as far as I can tell) is pretending that some black people are "assholes looking for excuses."

    Will you acknowledge, though, that there is some validity at least to the fear many black people have of being mistreated by the police even without having done nothing illegal? Does it bother you at all that such a concern is as widespread as it is? Or do you think that overall it is just whiners whining?
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  28. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Again, you get upset when you believe people are putting words in your mouth but don't hesitate to do so with other people.

    For what it's worth, what I took Dicky -- and he of course can speak for himself or correct me if I'm wrong -- to be saying was simply, "I have never pretended that some black people aren't assholes. For example, Bill Cosby is not someone I've defended."

    That is a world of difference from: Because I've attacked Bill Cosby, I get to treat the rest of black people as marginalized victims that can't be held to the same standards.

    I don't think Dicky has ever said anything to support the notion that he thinks that black people are all/mostly marginalized victims.

    Nor has he said anything to suggest that he thinks black people can't be or shouldn't be held to the same standards.
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  29. Diacanu

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    I think he knows better. He's just out to waste people's time at this point. :bailey:
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    I generally think people who complain about wokeness in media are just bigots who want to pretend they aren’t bigots because of the social reprisal. That said, I think within the complaints about wokeness there lies a kernel of truth. And that kernel of truth is that a lot of media shoves liberal culture into shows now without regard for making sure they still tell a good story. It’s a sort of virtue signaling that allows for the very type of bigotry they claim to despise to continue, because it doesn’t address any of the underlying issues those groups face, it turns those issues into a sort of comfortable caricature that barely threatens the status quo.

    None of what I said above applies to Lanterns though. It tells an interesting story and the inclusion of race as a plot point didn’t feel ham-fisted.
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