Exactly right. Immigrants come here and work fields, they keep people fed, they clean hotel rooms, and heaven forbid they might want a few of the liberties we enjoy as so-called "rightful" citizens. The mindset that says there are a lower class of people to be stepped on and exploited for the good of the rest of society needs to die. The GOP and anyone who reinforces their narrative needs a swift kick in the ass until they realize they'd be starving and unemployed without the help of immigrants. In this scenario, everyone's lives truly do matter. How worthless a society that bites the hands that feed it.
Christ, you really are a Canadian Dayton. Compared to the border between the US and Canada (the largest unguarded border in the world), the border between the US and Mexico's the goddamned Berlin Wall. (And don't you worry, Trump will almost certainly have machine gun-equipped guard towers up in the near future.) How many times did you have to travel to the US on business between 2021 and January of this year? Because that's when the policies you think Biden should have done would have gone into effect.
I'll believe that you lot sincerely want people to enter the country "the legal way" when you come out and say Trump/Miller/ICE/CBP are completely wrong to be deporting people who DID because Trump arbitrarily changed their status after they were here. Particularly the Afghans. Until then you're just recycling the same right wing bullshit propaganda they've been vomiting out for 30 years. Also, you'd be joining us in bitching that "the right way" is a far too complex and designed to fail mess of dead ends and traps and serves no useful purpose in the existence of a rational border control system.
You’’re the one that inserted into the conversation that the border would be 100% completely shut down when that’s not what i was asserting at all, autistic meme guy
What fantasy are you going to spin next, aside from your personal one? Trump will exterminate the illegals by having them walk into disintegration machines?
The problem with 1 and 2 is that you're making a fundamentally flawed assumption: you keep thinking that the MAGAts are rational actors. They are not. It doesn't matter what the "Liberals" do it will be dismissed as lies. No matter what level of documentation it will be dismissed as "liberal lies". Just as the numbers showing that the US economy does better under Democrats than it does at Republicans. MAGAts (and Republicans in general) cling desperately to the belief that Republicans are better at running the economy because...reasons... As far as 3 is concerned I'll let you two fight that one out yourselves.
Y'know, one of these things is going to turn violent or worse, which is exactly what Self-loathing Jew Stephen Miller and the gang are hoping for.
"Look, pal. You can leave, or we can knock you the fuck out and then you will be unconscious in a hospital FULL of surgical implements and people who know EXACTLY how to use them. So unless you fancy donating a kidney and singing the high notes in the choir from now on, I'd GTFO." Sadly, it prolly didn't go down like that.
ICE is currently kidnapping people in Utah. ICE escalates arrests of Utahns not accused of crimes Source: https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-1...lates-arrests-of-utahns-not-accused-of-crimes
Indeed. Right now, almost every Trumper is gleeful as brown people are arrested, imprisoned, and murdered. They haven't had it this good since the Civil War and they're not going to miss out.
The United States government, via the Trump administration, has essentially declared war on the people who feed its population. They've already said they'll have the so-called "millions of people on Medicaid" do the farm work. Fucking Trump voters sold themselves down the river, the morons.
Wonkette has a pretty good analysis of the numbers, and basically every Medicaid stat you've heard out of any Republican's mouth is a lie. Of 71 million people on Medicaid, 30 million are kids, which leaves 41 million adults. Of those adults, 15 million are working age and not covered by SSI or disability insurance, which leaves 26 million potentially able-bodied adults. Of those 26 million, 16 million are already working, so now we're at 10 million. Of those 10 million, 5 million are either students or caregivers. Of the remaining 5 million, approximately 2.6 million are sick or disabled but haven't been able to jump through all the hoops we make people jump through in order to qualify for SSI. So we're talking about a little over 2 million people ... and let's not forget that "not considered disabled" and "able to work the kind of backbreaking jobs that undocumented immigrants usually do" are not the same thing. Republicans loooooove their fantasies about lazy poor people living it up on welfare. These fantasies have basically become a core part of their identity by now. But they're also complete bullshit.
These are the same people who claim to love Jesus, too, and who call the United States a Christian nation. They're honestly just so full of shit that if there really was a god, every last one of them would have been struck by lightning. Of course, many of them don't actually believe, it's just awfully convenient and an easy tool to manipulate the masses who vote themselves out of their own rights.
To put it more bluntly a lot of these people are incapable of dealing with any kind of rules, regulations and paperwork. It's one of the obstacles that they ran into in Salt Lake City with their "housing first" approach to homelessness. All they asked of anyone was that they not create problems with their neighbors or try to burn the place down and there turned out to be a percentage who couldn't even do that. Of course, there are those who use that as an excuse for opposing the entire program, never mind the fact that the overwhelming majority of people on the program were no longer out creating problems on the street and a significant percentage were able to get plugged into the social networks and build better lives for themselves...to the benefit of society at large. The same is true for homeless veterans. While most of those "veterans" are phonies there are some who simply cannot cope with any kind of bureaucracy. When it comes to fucking over as many people as possible, MAGAts will dismiss any documentation that doesn't jive with their sick world view.
What could be more American than sending Secret Police to little league practice to interrogate kids? https://bsky.app/profile/longtimehistory.bsky.social/post/3ltp63gz6lk2c
I’m reminded of a tactic the Stasi would use to see who was modifying their TV to get West German news. They’d send Sesame Street characters to elementary schools and see which kids recognized them and got excited.
is there an unintended "not" in there? This part: "Of those adults, 15 million are working age and not covered by SSI or disability insurance..." How would NOT being on SSI/disability disqualify them from "able to work?
You're the one who claimed that there's a problem with the southern border, despite the fact that the majority of people in the US who are here "illegally" are people who overstayed their visas. Meaning, Canadian Dayton, that turning the border between the US and Mexico into the Berlin Wall 2.0 (something which Trump is planning on doing) wouldn't do anything to stop the number of people here "illegally." Stop getting your news about the US from fucking Info Wars.
Yep. Believe me, I understand not wanting to vote for either candidate when both of them are beholden to their own corporate interests, but Trump was literally bragging about the fascism he was going to do, and Project 2025 should have been a clarion call for a lot of people who figured nothing of consequence would change, because here we are, and we are in deep fucking shit.
I mean, they're not hiding it anymore. They're telling people "if you look brown, we're going to stop you, probably arrest you, hold you in a prison cell for weeks, and maybe let you go if we don't ship you to Venezuela and put you in a concentration camp there." I've seen some depraved acts by presidential administrations in my 45 years, but fuck me across the Moon these people are trying for modern day Mussolini and practically daring people to do something about it.
@Paladin is overjoyed. Government tyranny is a small price to pay to ensure he has the guns to fight back if the government ever becomes tyrannical.