Mass Deportations Round One

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Would you be one of them?
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    It's the old Charlie Kirk tactic. Be angry and defend the rights of black people to be exploited as long as they don't try to usurp the hierarchy white men have made for themselves.

    I'm white. I've grown up around white conservatives. I know how these fuckers work and their selective defense of marginalized people.
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  3. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    we're a little more concerned that your military will be here long before then.

    lebensraum and all that...
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    And for good reason. The United States is a dangerous place to be, and a dangerous neighbor to have right now.
    Lubak has never seemed worried about that, though, when I've warned him about it in the past. It seems like a lot of what we're going through here is a joke for him.

    You, though, when I say I worry about what will happen, I know you understand where I'm coming from and just what the stakes actually are right now.
    I sincerely hope, for both of our sakes, that the US doesn't do something exceptionally stupid with its northern neighbor. Our countries have a long friendship, and I'd hate to see it destroyed by a fascist asshole and his Nazi goobers.

    Just remember that a majority of people in the US don't want that friendship to be ruined.
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  5. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    on the other hand, there's the principle of "nothing about us without us".
    for a while at work, my entire team was Black other than me. We were outreach but had one day of the week in office partly for work, but also to team build and such. Me and the second coordinator even had a lot of friends in common and community history.

    But I'd always bail after lunch because it was the only uniquely organic Black space. I mean, the agency is obviously DEI embracing and I've long earned my stripes as being "one of the trustworthy ones"... but offering my absence was probably the mindful thing to do. The point I'm getting at is that us white folks that wanna help are there to make coffee and stall the police if they come knocking. The savior complex is real, and part of becoming an accomlice is recognizing it in ourselves.
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  6. Coloratura

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    That is 100% correct. When I'm in spaces that aren't white centered spaces, I listen. My voice is unnecessary and unneeded. When I'm in mixed spaces where any view can be heard, I don't mind speaking up until someone whose voice is marginalized steps in and I move aside because my voice is now not needed (or wanted, or is misinformed and I am being corrected).

    When I'm in majority white spaces, I speak freely because there is going to be a lot of stupidity from other white people, along with white centered supremacy, and since I'm in a majority white space at that point, I should speak up against that white supremacy in the absence of marginalized voices.

    The Charlie Kirk point I made is real, though. People like Charlie Kirk talked about how black people should be able to have dignity and respect, while also working to remove their voices from the discourse, because it is a tactic. They don't actually believe black folks and other marginalized folks should have a voice (outside of Tokenism), they just want to use those marginalized voices to shut people up.

    The people here who talk about marginalized people being against immigration? They don't actually care outside of those voices being a cudgel. It's not about meeting the needs of the non-dominant groups in the US, it's about waving them around like free passes and then tossing them aside once they get what they want.
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    Apologies if this has already been posted about.

    Have you seen the Trump memes with him as Master Chief from the Halo video game? Its fucking stupid. AND apparently DHS is using Halo for their ICE ads. Its fucking dumb. AND the creator of the music for Halo Marty O Donnell posted on his twitter that Trump solved yet another war-because something about the fucking consoles and now Halo will be on Nintendo or some other console besides just Xbox. AND Marty O Donnell is running for Congress. He is a slime ball that happened to create really awesome music.
    They are equating the "Flood" from the Halo game as immigrants-that need to be wiped out.

    LETS UNPACK ALL OF THAT NOW. (I hate that term, unpack btw So I use it here IRONICALLY) AHHHHHHHHHHH
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    notnick lost, as usual

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    you see trump is poison everything he touches or talks about is poisoned the things he is for are poisoned because he is poison. even if it is a 'good' thing trump poisons it an makes it ugly and nasty. so you guys go LIBERALS ARE NOT PROTECTCING AMERICA!!!! which is not really the case it's just that America has now been poisened and it's hard to take poison no matter how trump tries to make it taste good no matter the subject it's all trumps poison hiding any good
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    Ah but you don't have to applaud draconian tactics to fix a problem that could have been fixed decades ago if the party in power hadn't so valued it as a political lightning rod.

    The border has only ever been a problem because those with the power to make it better literally (by law) didn't want to.
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    Wait, so if the Dems wanted to secure the border in the 90's.... why exactly didn't that happen?

    There was a bipartisan comprehensive reform bill some 15 years ago (ish) while Republicans controlled Congress and it was killed by....?
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    the telecom deregulation law and bank deregulation were both big blunders that we're still paying for
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    by this point in time the Consultants had convinced the Dem old school that they had completely losr the immigration issue to Republicans and the only way to be relevant was to be "RepublicanLite" on the issue - a mistake that they continue to repeat across a number of issues because they can't discern when they are getting bad advice.

    That said, Dems have NEVER been in ANY sense opposed to secure borders (despite the great replacement bullshit that MAGA is hooked on) the debate has always been about HOW.
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    Assembly line deporting is like something a 90's SNL skit would have come up with for an evil imaginary candidate.
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    Simpsons did it.

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    Simpsons predicted another thing :sigh:
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    Imagine the hubris it takes to tell the Pope he doesn’t know about the religious needs of Catholics.

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    THE POPE! Like the guy in Rome with the pointy hat. That Pope!
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    Trad American Catholics: "We need to return to a Christian country!"
    The Literal Catholic Pope: "Love the stranger, invite them in, feed them, protect them."
    Trad American Catholics: "What the fuck do you know, old man?"
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    It’s the Heresy of Aryanism.
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    Fat, domineering ruler who had multiple wives and clashed with a Pope?

    Here's hoping for the leg ulcers.
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    Apparently he already has the smell...
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    During the Civil Rights era the Superior General was asked if he was concerned about how many American Jesuit priests had been arrested and jailed.

    His response was that he was concerned about those who hadn’t been arrested and jailed.
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    I am quite frankly amazed that gunfire hasn't greeted a group of masked thugs trying to scoop up people off the streets. I think it would be quite reasonable for someone to assert that they were in fear for their life under those circumstances. Prosecuting such a case might prove more difficult than might be expected in light of the fact that a lot of states have "stand your ground laws". Mind you, I am not advocating violence. Too damn much chance of collateral damage to those pain in the ass innocent bystanders. The lack of violence is either a testament to the restraint of the people being targeted or dumb-ass luck. :spock:
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