Not at all Muslim, caught in totally secular plot to blow up DC...

Oh wait. Turns out he was a Muslim, on jihad.

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He doesn't represent all muslims, and here is my isolated, cherry-picked example to "prove" it!
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These nutbags sure a vocal loud minority of Muslims. Sure would be nice to see the "moderate majority" and the moderate leaders and imams on TV every night loudly and responsibly denouncing this shit. Ge relative silence is why this shit gets pinned on all of Islam by so many.

I find it telling that these so-called "moderate" muslims do not publicly condemn the actions of their brothers. Their overall silence on the matter simply shows their complacency on the subject, if not outright giving their silent support.

Everything I ever needed to know about Islam I seem to relearn on a near-daily basis in the headlines.

If he was a Christian, would he represent all Christians? Would you then provide an "isolated, cherry-picked example" to "prove" that he didn't?

This guy is a Pakistani, just like 80% of Al-Qaeda and extremist terrorist plotters involved in planned attacks against the West.

Will people finally accept what I have been saying for years that Pakistanis constitute one of the greatest terrorist threats to the West in terms of Islamic extremism? The Pakistani giverment simply has not control over those within its borders.

Blow up DC? That's doing us a favor. I thought they hated us.

You don't have to be left wing to recoginise the inherent stupidity in including 2 billion people within the scope of extremism.


You know, it makes me laugh that this board is supposed to be full of Trekkies. 45 years ago Star Trek highlighted basic bigotry in an episode called Balance of Terror. Spock was railed against by a junior officer when it was discovered he looked like the enemy, ergo he should be viewed with suspcision and tarred with the same brush. Have we learned nothing in all those years?

No mainstream right leaning conservative politician in the US, from George W Bush, to Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin accepts the notion that muslims are to be treated as one and the same because of the actions of extremists. SO do do so many conservatives on this board? Sometimes this place looks like a recruitment drive for hard line Tea Partiers.

Chup, don't you realise that Wrodforge likes Star Trek for the pew pew lasers, and not for any social messages?

The lesson of Star Trek was "poverty only ends with magic, scarcity-eliminating technology, and multiculturalism is acheived by nailing every hot alien chick you meet."

Point of information: Was he a Christian?

And in other news the President of the United States is an Al-Qaeda terrorist because he has a muslim middle name.

One of you brave boys should step up and murder him because, you know, it's either them or us. Right?

Small world! My cousin Farooque is from Buttscorch, Va!
They should totally hang out together!

So it turns out this guy was Christian?

For them, every day is Guy Fawkes Day.

Uh yeah. Dont trust Romulans. look at all the shit they pulled against the federation all the way through up to the dominion war.

Not enough airtime for all the denouncing they'd have to do.

Some excuse is better than none.

Of course, so they decide to do none.

Other then the odd Yemeni virtually all the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia not Pakistan.

Well, if he was a typical muslim, there'd be hundreds, if not thousands of actual attacks happening every year in the US.


Since that doesn't seem to be the case....

So 9/11 is the be all and end all is it?

Clearly you haven't paid attention to other atrocities (such as the 7/7 attacks), the locations of many trainings camps, the purpertrators of failed attacks, the main ethnicity of extremist Islam in Britian & Europe and the Mumbai attacks. And, of course, that doesn't even touch the surface of terrorism within Pakistan itself against naysayers.

Shame, when one elects themselves intelligent against the morons but discounts his own ignorance.

But, yes, SA and Yemen have been forging them as well.......



......so let's attack Iran!

In here carrying the torch for Iran again, I see?

Why don't you just marry the girl and emigrate there?

I don't carry a torch for Iran. I just want brains and balance, instead of the nonsense of invasion talk against one country only.

To date there hasn't been a single Iranian civilian implicated in a terorrist attack or attempt. Yet you all want to go over there and kill thousands, while conveniently ignoring the threat from everywhere else because your media tells you these other places are allies.

Saudi Arabia and Pakistan needs to be cracked down on and Iran needs covert regime change, not another Iraq style total clusterfuck. Iran has nuclear capability now and Russia is it's buddy. Dropping bombs and killing thousands of innocents won't achieve a damn thing. There is a substantional pro-west portion of the Iranian civilian populous who would be able to effectively support and operate a new government installed by way of coup d'etat.

That is not pro-Iranian, that is just common sense in view of the total disaster that has been Iraq and the absolute failure to find Bin Laden and cripple Al-Qaeda.

There is simply no justificaton whatsoever in killing tens of thousands of innocent people if it doesn't (1) solve the problem in an effective manner, (2) is part of an overall effort to deal will all threats and not just one; and (3) take place after all other, less bloody, attempts have eben pursued (and I am not specifically talking about diplomacy).

But small minded individuals such as yourself are incapable of looking at the bigger picture and thinking about what works most effectively. You just want a map with a target on it so you can jump on the bandwagon.

But Mr. Small Town America doesn't know any other solution for problems but "bomb the shit out of them". Right?

^ You are correct about Iranian terrorists. They are too smart for that. They just fund and equip all the Fucknut terrorists. That's no better than doing it yourself, only it shows more brains and less courage.

I wonder how many virgins sponsors of terror acts vs. the sacrificial walking bombs?

You can surely grasp the ridiculousness of this statement?

I wonder if you just need better sources for your news? Its interesting that the original tip to the FBI was from a Muslim and his mosque had condemned the man and lauded the efforts of law enforcement.

Oddly enough, none of the FOX news sites mention any of this from what I've found (but then again, I haven't really looked too hard, I'd be interested if anyone praising their "fair-and-balanced" reporting style could dig up a link where they mention this...) Your echo chamber is really comfy though, right?

Combination of him not wanting to see those stories and it being less 'newsworthy' to report them because people like BD aren't that interested in reading them...