President Trump Job Approval Rating at 35%

Not so unexpectedly and I'm sure far less than President Obama would have been shot at before crashing to, but given the extreme level of opposition from it seems anyone with two functioning brain cells in America it seems surprisingly high to me.

You will generally find that there is a roughly 33% core group of people who will support you regardless of your performance or point of view. You could eat a baby on live television, and roughly 33% would find some reason to justify your actions.

The question brought up by these figures is what the hell is wrong with 35% of the country?

It was said that President Obama had a "hard floor" of 40-45% support. The level at which his support would never drop below.

Perhaps the hard floor for President Trump is the 30-35% range.

I think it's fairly well established by polling on various outlandish issues that the "idiot floor" is about 25%. That's the number who believe they've been visited by aliens, or who believe that the end of the world is near, or who believe Iraq had WMD's.

Trump is still somewhat above it at the moment.

Sound about right for what's basically a third-party candidate; but a bit, high, actually.

The hard floor for Trump is fairly toasty and has capering figures with horns and pitchforks.

Sadly, having dragged everyone else there he'll probably reveal he sold his soul to Milhouse and thus the Devil can't contain him.

Well the 80+ percent of Republicans who still approve of him have not yet realized that they're being fucked over good. I'm sure over time (another month?) we'll see him below Nixon's final score. Which was around 25 percent or so. And then his vanity will kick in.

How are Republicans being "fucked over good"?

Ask us the next time you need to pay for cleaning up a foot infection.

Considering that I didn't get the foot infected until I went to see a wound specialist, something I would not have done if I had not had insurance, I'm not overly concerned.

Besides the fact that my employer provides insurance.

Hurray for american medicine!!!
You didn't have an infection in the wound until you sought medical attention? Seriously???

Correct. I damaged both feet while trying to get in shape for football season in August 2015 (I anticipated being hired for an assistant football coaching job.

For 5 months I was going to a local (cheap) clinic and having my feet examined and cleaned up.

When I got insurance I went to a wound care clinic where the surgeon did quite a bit of cutting and trimming.

Within a month my right foot was infected and you know the rest.

In regards to the OP:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...8-percent-politico-poll/ar-AAndPq4?li=BBnb7Kz

And it's not like you've ever had any issues with employers before.

so, you didn't get proper treatment for 5 months and what you did get wasn't very thorough. Eventually the specialists had to do reparative surgery... And while I haven't read your diary thread more than two or three times in the last 14 years, I'm going to presume you half assed the after care, resulting in the infection.

Geez, man... take better care of yourself.


ANd you guys say the wait times under UHC are overlong?

The original infection wasn't D's fault - though from what I recall of his diary thread he did exacerbate it by not following medical advice. Post-op infections are sadly becoming more common with the rise in antibiotic-resistant bacteria, but if D had had the foot issues looked at early, rather than having to cheap out on his care due to being uninsured at the time, he might have avoided surgery altogether.

Talking about his voter base and those who still approve. So, not the 1 percent. They'll be just fine. But they are in any case.

So how those people will get fucked over you ask? Let's see.

• higher prices due to trade isolationism/the Made in the USA label/tariffs
• lower pay due to removal of 'don't screw your employees too badly' restrictions
• those jobs he promised? Those won't 'come back'. He can screw over the environment as much as he wants, if anything is 'coming back' it's gonna be automated including coal mines (). Do you really think there will be factories with production lines full of actual people again? When there are robots that can do the work of 50 people? Guess what, in China they use people because they are cheaper than full automation. In the US even if you guys lower your standards to the levels of Romania? Nope.
• with his stance on immigration, the high tech sector will either stall or leave. While high tech workers are not exactly the Republican base, they have thousands upon thousands of secondary industries. Those will suffer too.
• with his clumsy, uneducated aggression in foreign policy he'll start a war sooner or later, wittingly or not. I don't think he wants to but being the very maladroit elephant in the room he just might. In that case, they will probably cheer first but not any longer when their kids come back in body bags. And make no mistake - even if a confrontation with China happens strictly conventional, there will be body bags. Lots and lots of them.
• all the shiny programs he promised? Guess how he'll pay for them. Yes, yes. More debt. Guess who's going to pay back the interest? Indeed, the taxpayer. But of course infrastructure programs are a good thing. They just won't be financed by ideologically cutting 0,0062 percent of the budget to art grants.
• if there was any truth to his suggestion as to why pay the debt back at all... well, the US forcing its own default would make 2008 look like awkward teenage foreplay in contrast to heavy prolonged prison cell ass pounding.
• put that in relation to him promising lower taxes. Cool! Hey, I'm all for that too! But then... payday comes. Inevitably. However it won't come during his tenure in the White House, short as it will hopefully be.
• I wonder if even hardcore Republicans will cheer when the environment - in which they have to live too! - gets FUBAR'd but those jobs just won't materialize? Yay, poison river but I'm still on (even more meager) social security!

All for now. Just scratching the surface, though.

Geez, if I were you I'd move out.

It is true, going to the hospital has been known to kill people by anti biotic resistant infection and other stupid shit. My sister almost died because she got antibiotics for an ear infection and they gave her a c diff infection. That infection is when a certain bacteria enters your colon and overwhelms all the other bacteria. It only responds to certain antibiotics, and that is not even guaranteed. One of my grandfathers went in for crohns and he got an infection that the hospital could not cure and there are a bunch children of people with it on his floor.

This is not rare shit that goes on either.

After 13 years you could know I'm not in

Good point. But that sure is a lot of time America-watching you are spending to write such a lengthy reply while getting pretty much everything so wrong.

Just one example: undoing at the stroke of a pen a destructive EO by Obama is simply correcting an error that should never have existed, however it's spun by your sources. We (we America, not including you) have a legislature for that.

Historically automation creates more jobs than it eliminates. And vast numbers of jobs can't be automated anyway.

What "aggression" in foreign policy? Sending a carrier group to the South China Sea? Obama and Clinton both did that as well. It didn't cause a war.

You seriously think that Republicans are bent on poisoning the environment? Are you one of those who actually thinks the U.S. would be drowning in its own filth without the EPA?

For starters

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...ause-mass-unemployment-automation-and-anxiety

http://www.destinationcrm.com/Artic...eates-More-Jobs-Than-It-Eliminates-99253.aspx

After 13 years you could also know that I have a lot of family in the US. Also, what's happening there has repercussions globally. Enough for some interest, isn't it. Just because your world ends at the border not everybody's does.

'destructive EO' is of course your opinion, not a fact. Somebody else might have a different opinion. Imagine that.

But never in the short term. Also this industrial revolution is different from the last. In very, very short (because you could write a book about this and people certainly did already): this time, it's just destructive. Why? Because the jobs it creates are already in place. The Internet revolution created jobs because it came out of basically nowhere and entirely new kinds of jobs were suddenly needed. This time? The robots already exist. They can be bought on the open market. They have been in business since 1962 when GM deployed the first welding robot. That's not new tech. It's actually old tech that's ripe for mass deployment now.

You are of course right that not every job can be done by an AI equipped robot. But the menial jobs Trump promises can. And will. Those dirty coal mines? 400 men with pickaxes that need to eat and sleep and be sick and who demand pay? Or two machines, two overseers and an engineer? Guess! And let's be honest here, the guys polishing those pickaxes right now aren't gonna be app programmers or creative types any time soon. An economy where they grill burgers for the peeps who cut their hair and vice versa doesn't work. So they are fucked. Their only hopes are getting a job building the Wall of Stupidity or a multi trillion dollar infrastructure program financed by more debt.

Words and attitude... Trump's enemies change by the hour. Russia good in the morning, bad Russia in the afternoon. Bad EU yesterday, EU good today. NATO obsolete when Trump speaks, NATO totally cool when Pence does. That's too much wiggling room. Can easily lead to, um, unfortunate misunderstandings. When tensions are high, misunderstandings and a lack of overview are very bad things. As I said, I don't think Trump plans on starting any major wars. But he just might stumble into one thanks to sheer uneducation when it comes to international affairs.

Certainly sounds like that's the plan. Doesn't sound like he understands or *gasp* accepts that, for example, Clean Energy creates more jobs than digging up coal like it's 1798

Selective attention as usual.

You missed the whole "legislative" function part, eh? Don't bother to answer, I know there's not one good answer you could come up with on the merits. Just because you agree with EOs that further a 'green' agenda, e.g., doesn't make the original EO legitimate. Obama's problem was he couldn't pass laws the right way, so he side-doored tons of crap, bypassing Congress.

*That* was the reason for my choice of word "destructive." Destructive to the integrity of the process. Much like Roe v Wade was nine old men bypassing the legitimate state power to regulate (however misguided in some opinions). There are consequences when you pull shit like that, violating the letter and spirit of the US Constitution. [See, e.g., election of President Reagan, election of President Trump.]

And please spare us the horseshit of "Imagine that" other opinions. The fascist left in euroland and the US are the least tolerant segments of the population on the planet after commies and NK. And you're in denial re: that fact, or aware and just a liar.

I don't know if you know this but while coal mining has always been a highly dangerous and generally filthy, unhealthy job......it has still been largely automated for DECADES.

In regards to foreign policy, while President Nixon had his own problems, generally most concede he was highly knowledgeable about foreign policy and it was Nixon who lauded the deterrent value of the president appearing to be "crazy" or "unstable".

Dude I know it's the law. Stop preaching because believe it or not, there is a very high chance I know more about this kind of stuff than most here

But thanks for the fascist left. Seems like we're back in the Bush days where everybody who didn't fire a gun into the air and scream yeeee-haw! at the thought of war was a commie.