Public Denied Access to Calendars of Elected Officials

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  1. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    Of course it has to be the California State Legislature that is refusing to allow the public the ability to see their calendars.

    I have news for those pricks. I'm paying for their calendars, their desks, their cars, phones, email's and etc. I have a right to look at those mother fuckers schedules whenever I want. I own them!

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  2. Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz

    Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz And Hell's comin' with me!

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  3. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    My apologies, is there anything I can do to help?
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    Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz And Hell's comin' with me!

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    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    I can't tell if you're a troll or just an idiot. For one, just because someone becomes a public official doesn't mean they become your personal slave. Secondly, public officials still have a right to personal safety, making their schedules completely available opens them up to danger. Finally, if a public official is acting in dishonest business, do you think they're going to put "FOUR O CLOCK - MET WITH LIBERALS TO DISCUSS SOCIALIST TAKEOVERS" on their calendar? I think not.

    This is like the TSA, bread and circuses to keep people distracted.
  6. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    What a shock, TheBigGovernmentDefender is defending the government again.

    Then let them purchase their own vehicles, calendars and cell phones. Until that time I have a right to see them.

    You see Ballsack, just like the owner of a business has a right to look at an employees email, phone and etc. When the business owns it I have that same right with this states elected officials.
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    Beck Monarchist, Far-Right Nationalist

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    You know, I seem to recall the John F. Kennedy speech which basically said secrecy was an evil word. I wonder if Ted is spinning in his casket like his brother?
  8. Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz

    Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz And Hell's comin' with me!

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    I actually think there's a good argument on both sides here. But I'm going to have to go with Kirk on this one. Their schedules have been viewable, and they don't seem to be having too many issues with assassinations. The danger issue is the only argument I can see as legitimate from The Defender's side, and it hasn't seemed to be much of an issue so far. That said, I do think constituents should have the right to know what their elected officials are doing while on duty.
  9. The Exception

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    Yeah, heaven forbid I want public officials to be doing better things than cataloging every minute of their day. If you force the issue they'll either start seeing these people outside of their office hours or lie about it. At which point you either have to give up, or demand that they account for all of their time spent, which they can still lie about, so you'd either have to give up or create some sort of surveillance/auditing team, which would cost a bunch of money to satisfy your ridiculously stupid voyeuristic nonsense.
  10. enlisted person

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    Just about all the cruel, inhuman acts that have been done by any government, have been done in the name of security and safety. I am tired of hearing it.
  11. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    Knowing what elected officials are doing on my time is not vouyeristic you stupid fuck. You are an even dumber man than I originally thought if you think those fuckers in public office aren't lying to us already.
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    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    Don't forget it Ballsack who is defending the government again.
  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Yet it's your perception that somehow your having access to a calendar would prevent this.

    No doubt Jared Loughner was as interested in following Gabrielle Giffords' schedule.
  14. The Exception

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    I'm the stupid fuck? You're the one who knows that public officials lie to you, yet want to look at their schedules, as if they won't lie about what they're doing. Which means you're either fucking naive as all hell, or you're a self important busybody, which I kinda gathered given that you claim to be a business owner and started talking about all the things that you can do to spy on your employees.
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    They're gonna have to cough 'em up. It's a losing battle and they'd be smart (heh) to put them on their websites, like immediately. It won't stop mopery and dopery, but there's no reason to enable it by hiding their calendars. If it's not as easy as we think, it should be made that easy.
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    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    Shut the fuck up. You are nothing more than a shit stain on the butt crack of the US.
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    Aww, hit a little too close to home? It's okay, I'll put on my kid gloves just for you.
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    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    Hardly, you are simply too fucking stupid to even bother with. You have demonstrated once again how young and inexperienced you are. To blindly defend the government as you do is just laughable to watch.
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    :failedsodie:

    I prefer the term realistic. Making their schedules publicly available doesn't solve the problem because there's no difficulty in making up a false one.
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  20. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    Its not to "solve" anything other than to let the people who pay them to know what they are doing. Obviously, you are too immature to comprehend that.

    Oh, and if you dislike a boss or owner who employs you having the to check out emails, phones or etc. they pay for, start your own business abduction don't be an employee.
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    Translation: I don't trust my public officials not to be lazy fuckers, so I want the honest ones to go through extra work and the lazy ones to make shit up.

    This shit doesn't work in the business world and it sure as hell won't work in politics.
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    It seems that the problem here is caused by too many allowing the elected officials to get away with murder (so to speak) for so long that now they forget they used to be as visible as we want them to be.
    I think there could be a way to let the official have some privacy i.e. put "personal" when s/he has to schedule something personal such as a doctor's appointment or a school checkup with the kids or even a car tuneup on the calendar, but otherwise list what s/he is doing relating to their elected office.
    Think that might work guys?
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  23. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    You can shove your inaccurate translation up your ass Nick. These politicians need to be accountable to their bosses ie. the taxpayers. If they don't want to be accountable they can resign.
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    Start by stating how this makes them accountable.
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    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    It can show who they are meeting with. We can see when they are having appointments with constituents, lobbyists etc. Sure they may lie and when discovered people what scum those people are.
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    They are public officials conducting public business. They damn sure better have their schedules publicly available.
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  27. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    When I worked for one of our local cities, the city actually had some policies in place regarding at the time, email and the internet, etc. Since we were city employees and the taxpayers for the city, owned the buildings, the computers, and etc., residents were allowed to check our email's and etc. if they requested too.

    When someone would quit, or was fired, the IT division for the city would conduct an audit of all email's sent and received as well as all websites visited and that would be attached to the employees permanent file.
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    I don't personally care that much to look at a politician's schedule as my life is busy enough, but as employees of the people they should be on display for anyone who wants to see them.

    It's just another one of those endless examples of politicians forgetting who they work for.
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    Could be worse. In Florida our governor refers to voters as "employees"...

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  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So your real beef is a retroactive resentment of having your emails read.