Public loves Obamacare!

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  1. Larry

    Larry 18 wheels a rolling!! Deceased Member Moderator

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    ONLY if you drive..
  2. Volpone

    Volpone Zombie Hunter

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    So in other words, it is completely fucktarded to use it as a comparison to Obamacare. Unless deciding not to live so you don't have to buy it is somehow a viable option.
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  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You believe in the Death Panels, don't you? :itsokay:
  4. Larry

    Larry 18 wheels a rolling!! Deceased Member Moderator

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    No it's not, YOU DO NOT have to buy the Insurance, you ONLY pay a 1% fine on your taxes if you don't buy it. You have a choice. Most people who are bitching about this are insured anyway.
  5. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Pretty much. The public is still learning what's in it years after being passed.
  6. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Not even:

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf

    Searchable PDF. Even Dayton could navigate it.

    But y'all keep promulgating teh Stupid.
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  7. Chuck

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    This is really odd --- that song was playing on my computer as I read this post
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  8. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    In further developments . . .

    :diacanu:
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  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So who are these "experts"? Name them.

    Also, did you click on the link in that op-ed piece? :wtf:

    Or have you just given up the "NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S IN THE LEGISLATION!!1!" canard for a bunch of "See? I found this website that says my taxes are going up. They don't say how, but there's this website. They can't say anything on the Internet that isn't true."?
  10. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    "Most experts" you say?

    "Most experts"?

    Hmmm. Maybe I shoud re-think this.
  11. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Hey, Lanz found it on a blog. Clearly it must be true.

    "They can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true."

  12. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Hey! This is the internet, right?

    Most...no ALL experts agree that I'm a the best cook in the world and animals like me.
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  13. Chris

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    What, they don't do that already?

    The only difference between the ACA and our previous system was that the cost of "high risk" patients was hidden - either because they were rushed to a hospital that couldn't refuse them treatment (and the public was billed anyway), or through the loss of economic throughput because workers are sick, or bankrupt from expensive medical treatments, or stuck in job lock. All this does is throw the reality of healthcare in people's faces, and frankly, if they don't like it then they should've supported public, universal health care.
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  14. enlisted person

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    How does that help you if you have a job today but are out of a job tomorrow? The IRS is going to go on what you made last year and hit you with a fine for not having something you no longer have a way to pay for.
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  15. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    There is assistance available if you are on unemployment.
  16. John Castle

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    Obamacare: so awesome they won't use it -- and will force you to.
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  17. Rincewiend

    Rincewiend 21st Century Digital Boy

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    When it helps the community you live in, including you...
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    And most of the people complaining would most likely benefit from using ACA...
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  19. John Castle

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    Wrong. Forcing someone to pay for something is the same as forcing someone to labor for you. You know what forced labor is also called?
  20. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    in this case, false equivalency?
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  21. John Castle

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    So has anybody made excuses for the Obamas not using Obamacare yet in this thread? I'm in the mood to watch some comical mental contortionism.
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    :rofl: "Big Brother will force you to do what's best for you."
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  23. Larry

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    You know good and well that the President and Congress have PAID insurance. It wouldn't make sense. The same reason Boehner doesn't use it. I don't use it either because I have my OWN insurance.
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  24. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Oh, so there's even an exemption for Larry? Now I understand why the document was so long!
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  25. Larry

    Larry 18 wheels a rolling!! Deceased Member Moderator

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  26. John Castle

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    So... they don't want "lower premiums"? I say if they think it's good enough for the rest of us, they need to DMV up their health insurance just like others are being forced to do.
  27. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I don't think we should really have to explain this 38 times, but once again, the premiums are not lower if you already have subsidized care. People with employer subsidized care, for example (ie most people) would not have reason to buy through the ACA marketplaces.
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  28. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If you'd ever been on a group plan, you'd understand how it works.
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  29. John Castle

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    That's not at all relevant to my point, is it? If Obamacare was so spankin' wonderful, the people who passed it should have been the first ones to jump on it.
  30. tafkats

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    And as we all know, a law that's long must be bad! Because there's certainly nothing complex about health care. :busheep:
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