I was reminded today of Alice Eve's gratuitous underwear scene, and it occurred to me that Into Darkness is the most "for jocks, by jocks" of the Trek movies. -its gonna open like a cop move, right? Kirk is gonna do something totally badass, and then the chief of police is gonna be all "You're a loose cannon, Kirk! You're off the force!" -And remember that movie with Phoebe Cates where she comes out of the pool and you see her boobies? That was so hot, do that with the Enterprise. Make it come out of water all sexy. -Pike is still alive? Okay, Pike's gonna get blown up by terrorists and die, and Spock has to stand there and watch his soul leave his body. -Show a hot babe in a bikini! Wait, show her in her underwear! She'd better be fit as hell too! -Khan's a really smart guy, right? So Section 31 has him making badass weapons! -Okay, so imagine a big black guy twice the size of Kirk beating the shit out of him. Wouldn't that be kickass? Wait, make it a big black ship twice the size of the Enterprise beating the shit out of it! And maybe the big black guy steals Kirk's girlfriend, but it's not a fetish thing! -Spock's tough, right? Okay, he's gonna do a parkour chase after Khan, then they're gonna fight each other, because fights are badass! It won't look weird at all! -Tribble blood
That Spock/Khan fight was so cursed, if you're a sensible director you don't hire two scrawny dudes to play two notably brainy characters and then have them beat the shit out of each other for what feels like forever. Ah well, if nothing else I have to give them credit for showing SNW exactly how not to reimagine TOS stories.
It really is. I bet a double feature with The Rise of Skywalker would be fun, seeing how skilled Abrams is at taking a good movie and making a flashier, edgier, shittier ripoff of it with none of the redeeming qualities of the original. It's like if Be Kind Rewind was a horror film. NGL I kinda want him to try redoing the Godfather next
I found myself thinking during the recreation of the Spock dying scene from TWOK "man, I bet JJ Abrams thinks he is such a fucking genius for having Kirk die instead and Spock yell out "KHAAAN!" and then just shaking my head And then the fucking tribble thing happens and you're just like damn
I think casual viewers forget that the original Khan scream was a misdirect, part of Kirk pretending Khan got the better of him. That's why it works, it's so hammy but it's also exactly what Khan has been dreaming of hearing, so he doesn't question it. I have to admit I liked Spock's scream for a minute, the idea of an alternate Spock embracing his emotions and being better and stronger for it and having a whole different life with Uhura is an interesting one, but ultimately the execution was lacking. "Spock does one big emotion per movie" wasn't it.
Anakin isn't always portrayed as brainy, but you have just described most Sith/Jedi fights even if you didn't mean Anakin/Obi-Wan.
Ive always thought that movie was bad "I.....am....Khan" No.....you ....are ......not Horrible casting, numerous plot holes, entire story points ripped from TWOK...... Basically a sneak peek for what J.J would give us when he got the reigns to Star Wars.
I hated it from the first watch. It displaced Nemesis as my least favorite Trek film. And that is saying a lot. Though I don't think it's a coincidence that the two worst Trek films are also the ones that shamelessly copied one of the best.
The only thing I like about Into Darkness is evil Peter Weller. Evil-Weller is better than Shinzon, so that bumps ID up half a star for me.
I think if it were possible to watch it without knowing about TWOK or if they had just kept him as a genetically engineered superman who wasn't Khan, it maybe would hold up better? Shallow pool: Alice Eve is easy on the eyes.
It's still got planet-to-planet beaming, an unnecessarily convoluted plan from Khan ("I meant to get caught!" ) and magical blood. Nemesis, for all its faults, had a better performance from Tom Hardy, the presence of Ron Perlman, a cameo from Janeway, and Romulans. I feel genuinely sad that Nimoy's last on-screen moment was from that stupid Into Darkness cameo and not his much more touching denoument from the 2009 film.
Agreed I think Nemesis would have worked better had Hardy played a Romulan from the Tal Shiar. And of course if a better director than Stuart Baird was available. From what I understood, the guy couldn't even get the actors names right. Too many character moments were chopped out while overly long action sequences was left in.
