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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I hope SNW comes up with an explanation for the cheesey TOS sets.
    Like a disguise algorithm for the logs if they get stolen by Romulans, or something.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    "Datalore" was on a few nights ago.
    Lore talks about absorbing MILLIONS of minds instead of just the memories of the colonists.
    Well, that's the Borg, isn't it?
    He wants to be Borg King.
    And then he sorta-almost did become Borg King in "Descent".
    Nice accidental foreshadowing there!
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    "One Little Ship" Why is it that Starfleet doesn't equip every shuttle with environmental suits? I've never understood this. I know in real life reason is probably because it wasn't in the budget so they had to think of a clever way around it, but still.
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  7. 14thDoctor

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    Yeah, environmental suits are probably the closest thing a shuttle or runabout would have to an escape pod. Should come standard.
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    It's always bothered me that we didn't see any until Voyager.
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    Huh, I googled it and One Little Ship takes place when the DS9 crew is wearing the First Contact uniforms, so the props department should have had access to the First Contact environmental suits that Voyager used as well. Weird.
  10. Diacanu

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    Robert Duncan McNeil said on his podcast (that he does with Garrett Wang) that the FC suits were very uncomfortable to the point of painful.
    They looked cool, but from the chest up, they were a solid molded piece like an action figure, and if they didn't fit you exactly, they would either flop around, or crush you.
    So, actor's unwillingness to wear them may have factored into the writing.
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  11. Steal Your Face

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    It could be that they just thought beaming the air bubble was a cooler idea.
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    It was certainly cheaper and faster to film, I'm sure.
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    Which makes me think, the ENT suits were homely as fuck, but they were in modular pieces so must have fit better.
    However, the DISCO/SNW suits probably require some bulimia to squeeze into.
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    Conner Trinneer and Dominick Keating also have a podcast and IIRC, they also hated the suits so maybe Berman just was a dick to them and made them wear the suits as much as possible. By all accounts Scott Bakula is a nice guy so he probably didn't argue too much.
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    Maybe the EV suits didn't have the level of dexterity they would need to do the work?
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    Random annoyance with Star Trek 2009. When Kirk is running around with his giant hands allergic reaction (cue audience laughter) there are plot points being discussed that a casual viewer would miss. And then 30 seconds later he’s on the bridge and Pike & Spock are like, sounds good to me, whatever Kirk says is accurate!
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    This pretty much sums up Kurtzman's writing.
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    That's another thing I want; for them to just give it up, and fold JJ-verse back into the prime timeline somehow.
    Bruce Greenwood said all along he thought that's what they were going to do.
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  20. 14thDoctor

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    How? It's not easy to unexplode Vulcan, bring Pike back to life just to cripple him, and make Uhura no longer pregnant.

    Okay, that last one is pretty easy. :flow:
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    But seriously, the closest thing to the real, actual, no-foolin' "prime timeline" is the one we saw briefly in TAS Yesteryear, where Spock died as a kid and Thelin of Andor was Kirks first officer. Everything else we see is the result of various levels of incestuous temporal fuckery by different crews rippling back and forth across time. Especially Discovery, where we learn that Control and Burnham's mom have been conducting their own temporal cold war and fucking up the timeline in all sorts of ways.
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  22. Diacanu

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    Some kind of crossover that makes prime-timeline aware of them would be good enough.
    Like prime-Spock being in JJ-verse in reverse.
    Maybe Narada fell through to SNW before it blew up, or something.
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    Discovery established that at some point they became aware of that timeline.
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  24. Diacanu

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    Yeah, but one hologram of a bug man in a TNG uniform isn't as meaty and juicy as a full crossover, y'know?
    It's like the difference between "The Naked Now" and "Relics".
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    STO did it. But then non-canon. Except JJ-Trek is non-canon to Prime Trek, except for where it overlaps. Which STO-Trek does with Prime Trek so oh no I've gone cross-eyed.

    FYI in one mission in STO where you've been recruited as a Temporal Agent by Daniels, he has you visit an alternate timeline (JJ-verse) where you help the alternate USS Yorktown (which is commanded by the alternate version of your mentor if you played the TOS-era intro) and 0718 (the android guy from JJ-Trek, temporarily reassigned from the Enterprise) take down the Sphere Builders - who are actually survivors from the Prime universe using alternate realities as testing grounds for their experiments.
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    When was JJverse Uhura pregnant?! :unsure:
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    At the end of Beyond, it looks like she's drinking water instead of alcohol, might suggest she's pregnant.
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  28. Diacanu

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    Evel Knievel would need a rocket-cycle for that leap.
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    Also at the start of the movie she broke up with Spock, then at the end they're back together. What could have inspired her to change her mind? :chris:
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    Pretty sure she was knocked up in real life at the time, so...