Random Star Wars discussion

We have a random Star Trek discussion thread. Why not a Star Wars thread? For that matter, why not a Stargate discussion thread.

Anyway, I just wanted a place to post this.

Remember when TFA was in pre-production and an early rumor of the script came out and after the opening crawl there was supposed to be a shot of Luke's severed hand holding Anakin's lightsaber floating through space and it was supposed to land on a planet to be found by the main protagonist (not sure if it was Rey at that time)? Yeah, someone thought that was a good idea.

Am I the only one here who was the most excited about star wars when the 2 kids survived a crash landing on endor and their parents were killed forcing them to have to survive on their own with the help of the ewoks?

In my defense I also thought V the TV series (not the miniseries) was awesome around that time.

Being found by the protagonist, sure - but that's pretty much what happened in the original Thrawn novels. Evil/insane Jedi Master finds it and uses it to clone and train his own corrupted version of Luke.

I’m pretty sure it would have burned up in the atmosphere.

Actually....if a lightsaber can melt a metal door, and not melt itself....it might just be made of a magic metal that could survive re-entry.

Not the hand though, the hand would be ash.

Yeah so good luck extracting DNA for a clone. Of course Abrams would just say, “somehow…”

The chain of custody, if you will, is that Vader's henchmen retrieved Luke's severed hand and lightsaber before they left Cloud City, and the Emperor stashed it in his private storehouse on Wayland, which is where C'Baoth got it.

Abrams? That was written by Timothy Zhan.

I was talking about the line in Rise of Skywalker “somehow Palpatine returned”

What I've jury-rigged from the scant details we get onscreen is, though Palpatine's original carcass got ashed in "Return" he left DNA samples ahead of time, and then it took all the force of that stadium of Sith chanters to pull his soul back from Sith-Hell to put into the clone.

Which they nicked from the Master in Dr Who. Didn't need a stadium full though.

Yeah, but they didn’t even attempt to explain any of that.

They need a whole "Rise Of Palpatine" miniseries to fill in those gaps.

I assumed we were getting at least a piece of that in The Mandalorian, with Palpatine's followers wanting to use Grogu to assist with that.

Though I thought there was enough left of Palpatine's "only mostly dead" body that it was still the original plugged in to the temple, but that it was failing fast by RTOS. Ironic that he ended up even more crippled and requiring even more cumbersome life sustaining equipment than Vader, courtesy of Vader.

The "mostly dead body" thing was the theory I originally went with, but now I'm not so sure.

I dunno how much of this went into the thinking in the movies, but the novels had the whole "replicative fade" thing with clones like TNG and "Multiplicity".
So, maybe Palps cloned so many times, the clones were rotting faster.

Oh, and him being hooked to the armature? They stole that from the comics.
There's an old Sith wizard in "Tales Of The Jedi: The Freedon Nadd Uprising" that's just like that.
Except with him, his bones had disintegrated, so when a Jedi cuts the crane arm down, he crumpled into a humanoid jellyfish.
It was quite disturbing.
ROTS is loaded with comic and novel stuff, JJ was clearly an old time EU fan.

I should probably go back to bed, I almost asked if there had ever been clones in the Star Wars movies before.

isn't that in Patton Oswalt's Parks and Rec filibuster?

Speaking of thievery, I came across this piece today by Erich Wolfgang Korngold from the 1942 film Kings Row.



Sound familiar?

You know, with a little tweaking, this scene could have worked.

Maybe, but Luke is the one of two remaining Jedi/force user and the Rebel Alliance believes in the force, Leah knows all of this so she should be encouraging Luke to seek out and train with Yoda. Besides, she met Obiwan before and should know how important it is to have a Jedi around.

3:16

Why is Luke Skywalker not on the posters?As it turned out, JJ Abrams, Bad Robot and Secret Hideout are all made of hack writers and Lawrence Kasden just needed a paycheck.

Damon Lindelof Is Developing a Star Wars Film, And It Now Has a Director

Then it’s guaranteed to suck because Lindelof is a hack.

Watchmen the series kicked fuckin' ass.
Even if you pretend it's roulette wheel luck, he made a good thing.