Reactionary Radical Eliminationists vs. Trans

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  1. Uncle Albert

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    Go fuck yourself, performative victim.
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  2. Diacanu

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    Go call Crosis a liar 150 times with spit bubbles popping out of your quivering lips.
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  3. Uncle Albert

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    That would come up short by a good 50 or 60 lies. But Chunky-C has some competition if I'm now accused of plotting murder.
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    Plotting? No.
    A humanoid drum of gasoline with a pinky-length fuse sticking out?
    Oh, yeah.
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  5. Coloratura

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    It's always interesting how he changes things. No one said anything about plotting. We just know that UA lets the state do his hating and killing for him so he has the much needed time to come here and yell at trans people all day.

    It's almost Trumpian in how he says the quiet part out loud.
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  6. Diacanu

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    He's one year younger than me, but he's such a fucking boomer.
    Damnedest thing I ever saw.
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  7. Coloratura

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    UA is a great example of "I'm not a pedophile!" when people say something vaguely referencing pedophiles.
    He just blurts out exactly what he's thinking and projects it onto everyone else. As I said before, he's like Scrooge in that Scrooge saw empathy and kindness as a humbug. No, people aren't kind and generous because they want to be, there has to be some ulterior reason, some selfish motive, and it's because he is selfish and unkind, and can't see others as being better than him on anything.

    So very Trumpian. The difference between Donald Trump and UA is that Donald Trump managed to fail upward, while UA just managed to fail sideways, rolling over and over like the last 11 PM hot dog on the gas station roller.
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  8. Uncle Albert

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    I don't care enough about you to see you dead. That's my real "crime" here.
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  9. Diacanu

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    If she were, I'm sure you'd be classy.
    :garamet: :rolleyes:
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    Oh, I don't believe him at all. He cares a lot, just like he cares a lot about what's going on in the trans community. For a man who doesn't care, he devotes an enormous amount of time to caring a lot.
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  11. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Uh huh....

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    Day in the life of @Diacanu

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  12. Diacanu

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    I just see UA posts as dandelions to take a weed-wacker to.
    I make a little mental video game of it.
    Doing it in clown makeup wouldn't threaten me any.
    Might make it more fun.
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    When you take a weed whacker to a dandelion you're just going to end up with a lot more dandelions. You gotta poison them instead. :banana:
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  15. Coloratura

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    It's all bad, of course, and I'll link the entire article for those who want to read all of what bullshit Trump plans on doing next, but since this is the trans thread I regret to inform you that if you're trans, or a trans ally, you're likely going to be seen as part of a terrorist group by police and military counter-terrorist forces in the US.

    US says migration has made Europe an ‘incubator’ for terrorism in new counter-terrorism strategy
    Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...m-strategy-targets-europe-terrorism-migration
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    Anarchists, real ones, are pacifist. Hard to be terrorist if you abhor violence.
    If you're an anarchist with a bomb in your pocket, you're a liar.
    Like NRA Christians.
    Or liberals who like Netanyahu.

    Anyway! That they think anti-fascists are inherently evil, and refuse to distinguish that they come in violent and non-violent flavors kind of gives the game away.
    That only leaves pro-fascist, doesn't it?
    I mean, I guess there's theoretically meh-fascist; but you can't straight-faced get to that place without also being a garden variety nihilist.

    Come on, assholes. We see what you're doing.
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    Indeed. The only time my anarchist comrades have become violent is in direct defense of a group of people, usually started by cops no less, and even then the order of the day is still to be as non-violent as possible while protecting the vulnerable.

    The US is built on using systemic violence to murder while decrying violent retaliation against those policies. It is perfectly fine and legal to starve men, women, and children as long as it is signed and ratified by the governing body, it is perfectly good and legal to drop bombs on thousands of innocent men, women, and children overseas, or even in your own country, as long as there is a legal order allowing it.

    The moment you resist any of that, though? Now you're the violent one because the law, which has been designed to disarm and oppress you while protecting the wealthy who own their legislators, has deemed you the violent one. There are in-groups the law protects but does not bind, and there are out-groups the law binds but does not protect.
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    Thinking anti-fascists are inherently evil would be the mental baseline view....of any fascist.
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    She didn't do anything wrong. She didn't commit any crime. She didn't harm anyone at all, and she was murdered for existing.
    She was 19 years old, she was minding her own business, and yet she was stabbed 40 times and died in the laundry room of their college's apartment complex.

    Community Grieves Juniper Blessing, Trans Student With “Heart of Gold” Who Loved Meteorology and Pokémon
    Blessing’s friends at the University of Washington are sharing an outpouring of remembrances.
    Source: https://www.them.us/story/juniper-blessing-meteorology-hobbies-friends-family-remembrances
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    And to follow up because of course...

    Many alleged suicides of Black trans women are in fact modern-day lynchings, report finds
    Jill Collen Jefferson, the founder of JULIAN, explains what happens when a transgender woman’s death is ruled a suicide and a community calls it something else.
    Source: https://www.advocate.com/news/crime/black-trans-women-modern-lynching

    This is heartbreaking, as always, but it's not surprising. The systemic inequality that has plagued black folks, immigrants, and other marginalized groups still exists and lives in full force in many places, and plenty of LGBTQ+ people amongst those groups can attest to that. This whole system needs scrapped and a better one built for everyone from the least to the greatest, where equity, compassion and justice can truly serve.

    Pretty words aside, what's happening is maddening horseshit, and it's time these assholes were held accountable for all of the grief and abuse they've caused. I'm tired of privileged, white, wealthy assholes writing the laws that crush the people they see as beneath them. It's time they pay for their own crimes.
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    Suicide is a choice. You are not a "victim" of something you do to yourself, and nobody else is to blame.

    "Do what I want or I will kill myself" is a vile manipulation tactic of children who were not raised right, believing they finally hold veto power over free speech.
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    All things being equal, everything is a choice; but when all things are engineered to be unequal, not so much.
    In a utopia, you can walk down any street you want, but in a bad neighborhood, you have to take a circuitous route.
    If I engineer the bad neighborhoods, I've controlled you.

    All libertarian platitudes rely on this fantasy blank-slate world inhabited by robot-men.
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    None of which negates the fact that you are making a choice. Utopia is not a prerequisite of accountability.
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    Man, you dodge the point like NEO with bullets.
    You know you're doing it on purpose, I know, you know I know, and everyone watching this knows.
    I don't know WTF you get out of it.
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    shut up you have no idea what you are talking about SHUTUP with your sick opinions and also go to hell
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    I think the point of the article was to highlight the possibility there are trans deaths ruled suicides that aren’t actually suicides. Straw man alert! Straw man!
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    I agree very much.

    But not so much with this. In many cases, yes: you are right. But when someone makes someone else's life unbearable, even though the choice to commit suicide lies with the person who does it, that does not absolve the one who made his (or her) life unbearable of blame, or change the indisputable fact that their actions contributed to the suicide. To argue otherwise ultimately would mean that no one can ever have any influence on someone else's choices. Just because a person is responsible for their choices, that does not in any way imply that those who influenced them have no part of the blame for a bad choice, or credit for a good choice.

    I agree with this also. But that is by no means the only scenario where the actions of someone else might influence a person is their choice to commit suicide.
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    Perhaps using such hateful terms just because you disagree with someone else's opinions is not the best way to demonstrate that you have the high moral ground, or that your opinions have a greater right to exist and/or be expressed than the opinions of the other person.

    If you really think his opinions are "sick", then demonstrate it. Simply trying to prevent him from expressing them is not really the point of a discussion forum.
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    The problem with "influence" getting it's little pinky toe through the door in this topic is the temptation to draw a straight line to culpability, as an angle to silence free expression and crush dissent.
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    You made no point. Just your usual schtick of expecting someone else to answer for the hacky fiction you shoehorn in when you've got nothing else.
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