Roe v. Wade

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  1. shootER

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    Trying to mandate more humans be born. :jayzus:

    Have you met humans? Stop that!
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    Go forth and reproduce. Or we'll arrest you and make you a sperm donor.
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    Same here. And created a tax law that let you donate some portion of your tax bill to CPC's rather than pay it as taxes...and THIS year wants the state to budget more for the CPCs (which only exist in heavily white areas of the state) to make up the "shortfall" when the tax provision didn't raise as much as they projected.

    Also? The Speaker of the House won't allow a vote on a provision to expand post-partum Medicaid care from two months to 12, which most legislators support and which would cost less than a third of what he wants to give to the CPCs.
    Why?
    Because he thinks it will make them less likely to go back to work after giving birth (as if)

    I'm old enough to remember when "mothers ought to be home raising their babies" was Republican Dogma but, hey, late-stage capitalism FTW I guess.
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    Well, at least she didn't have to give birth to her brother's baby.
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    why do you hate God's Special Children
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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    It gives me a special tingle in my butthole.
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    It’s not the same thing. I’ve had both procedures. Essentially, the same thing is happening, just one is done without a fertilized egg inside the uterus.

    Not intending to deny that any of those nutcases wouldn’t have had an abortion or insisted a wife/sister/girlfriend have one. Just sayin’, it ain’t the same thing.
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    +1 Not the same thing. That fetus was dead for weeks. In no meaningful way comparable.
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  18. Nova

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    there are multiple women walking around this country RIGHT NOW with a dead fetus in their womb that every doctor that they can get to is terrified to remove because the law leaves room for them to be prosecuted for preforming an abortion.

    At the risk of infection and death.

    So while we can nitpick that it's not TECHNICALLY the same thing, there's a metric fuckton of reactionary politicians out their rubbing their hands together like a cartoon villain saying "try it. I DARE you."
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    Absolutely the same thing, because as Nova points out the laws being pushed in many cases treat these situations as the same thing.
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  21. Uncle Albert

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    It's superficially similar, and shamelessly fucking ghoulish to make political hay out of it.
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  22. Jenee

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    True. Both of you. The laws that have been passed are shamelessly fucking ghoulish.
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    Funny how someone who thinks any laws regarding guns are a slippery slope to fascism but don’t think that laws regarding reproductive health could go the same way. Odd that.
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  24. Jenee

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    People naturally argue in favor of things that are interesting/important/relevant to them and downplay things that aren’t.

    I honestly could not care less about guns and anyone’s right to own one. But, any attempt to block women’s rights will have me protesting in the streets and screaming all the way to the voting booth.
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    If that is directed at me, I would suggest a quick search on my comments concerning abortion.
  26. Amaris

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    That's why I say all women should own guns.
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    Yea, I’ve had this same conversation a thousand times with UA. I doubt I’d ever be able to pull a trigger and decide my life is more important than someone else’s. I’ve no idea what circumstances brought that person to the point that s/he felt the need to physically attack me. My circumstances, on the other hand, have been mostly good all my life. So, no need to kill someone else to make my life better.
  28. Amaris

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    I understand that. I generally take the position that if I am put in a position where it's my life or the life of someone who is attacking me, I will protect my life. I will doubly do so if the attacker is threatening the lives of vulnerable people, or other people I care about. It's always a last option, but one that is always on the table.

    In short, I am against the death penalty, but if, in the heat of an attack, a woman has to shoot her assailant in order to survive, she is justified in doing so.
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    I’m totally not saying someone wouldn’t have the right to defend themselves with lethal action. Just saying I’m not sure *I* could pull the trigger.
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    I should clarify: I understand where you're coming from, and I once felt the same way. I'm just saying that from my position, this is what I'd do. I'm agreeing that your course of action is best for you, and mine for me. I would never want you to do anything that goes against your own personal ethics, @Jenee.
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