Should intelligence be withheld from a sitting President?

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  1. Zombie

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    Nope. You're still a leftist cunt hypocrite.

    POTUS should be given all the intelligence.

    If POTUS is misusing it than there are several options:

    #1 The people don't rehire POTUS

    #2 Congress impeaches and removes from office

    That's you're options.

    Government employees should never be withholding intelligence from any POTUS.
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  2. The Original Faceman

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    Can you come up with more realistic options since 1) the people are stupid (see 1600 Pennsylvania Ave as exhibit one) and 2) congress is worse.
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  3. Zombie

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    Nope. That's the way it is.

    If POTUS is an idiot only the people can fire him. Unless he resigns or dies in office of course.

    Congress could impeach him.

    The only other way is the 25th Amendment but that's really going to be hard because you would need 2/3 of the House and the Senate to agree with it. Impeaching him would be easier.

    If the people and Congress refuse to do anything than that's that.

    Unless you're willing to start the 2nd Half of the Civil War. ;)
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  4. The Original Faceman

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    I'm willing to lose the south this time.
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  5. TheLonelySquire

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    Maybe things should be kept from the Prez. The last trained specimen certainly had any common sense withheld.
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  6. Amaris

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    Are you referring to Obama, the Harvard educated black man who is better than you in every single way? Hell, George W. is better than you in every single way. Both men had compassion, kindness, and a desire to help other human beings, which are traits you sorely lack.
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  7. Amaris

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    Nope, but you go right on licking Trump's balls.
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    Didn't god already do that?
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    I believe I already mentioned that.
  11. Steal Your Face

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    Yep, time to go. Israel is our biggest ally in the Middle East, we shouldn't do anything to mess that up.
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    @Diacanu agrees!
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  13. Ancalagon

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    I can't get over this line:

    U.S. intelligence officials in January reportedly warned their Israeli counterparts against sharing information with the Trump administration, saying it could be leaked to Russia and forwarded to Iran.

    Oof.

    How sad is it that our intelligence agencies had to ask our allies not to share intelligence with us b/c they were afraid it would get back to our enemies and damage our National Security?

    How sad is it that they were right?
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  14. TheLonelySquire

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    I'll agree with you on GWB. But don't mention him in the same company as Obama. GWB is not a racist. Obama, by any definition, clearly is.
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  15. Amaris

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    No, your delusion is not reality.
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  16. TheLonelySquire

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    Just by referring to Obama as an "educated black man" proves you are racist as well. When you view life through a racial lens, as both you and Obama clearly do, it's impossible to take you seriously.
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  17. Amaris

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    Keep fucking that chicken, kid. Some day it will lay a golden egg.
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    "Oh, he's black, he brown, he's gay! He's an intelligent black man!" STFU already, jerky.
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  19. Amaris

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    No one's convinced you're arguing against racism here, save for the cleanup crew who follows your shit trail.
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  20. Zombie

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    Nope. It was the media that burned Israel.

    Trump never mentioned Israel or who the information came from. No news story about the supposed telling Russia classified stuff contains that Trump told Russia where the information came from.

    The New York Times knew it was Israel because we have some serious leakers in the government and they told them.

    In fact in your own link:

    "The president wasn’t even aware of where this information came from,” McMaster said. “He wasn’t briefed on the source."

    So again are you and others going to attack General H. R. McMaster, a man many of you were just defending a couple weeks ago, and call him a liar?
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  21. Ancalagon

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    Nope. You are conflating two different things.

    The Washington Post said that Trump divulged the city from which the intel was collected. McMasters said Trump did not give out who gave us the intel. Those are not the same thing.
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  22. Zombie

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    Nope. Got my info right. You're claiming Trump exposed that it was Israel.

    Anc: "And it was Israeli Intelligence Trump burned."

    He didn't burn Israel.

    As McMaster's said Trump did not know the source of the intel. So there is no way Trump could have told the Russians it was Israel.
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  23. Ancalagon

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    No I'm not. I'm saying Trump said the city where the intel came from. The city where Israel had their asset. This placed that asset in danger. Israeli Intel specifically said that the location the intel came from was not to be shared. Trump gave that intel to the Russians who then likely gave it to Assad and Iran.

    Thus, Trump burned Israel.
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    Plus I don't think it would be hard for the Russians to figure out the source. :shrug:
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