Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

Worst part?
Even if this thing stinks, falls flat on its face, and gets cancelled after 3 episodes, it's still canon.

Strictly in my opinion there are vast amounts of Star Trek aired material that needs to be "decanonized".

I'm not getting all this hate. Star Trek has kept redesigning the Klingons, most recently with STID. While I never liked that they did, I don't see why everyone is acting surprised now.

So no Worf cameo?

I'm not hating, just....guarded and cautious, and keeping my expectations down.

To me, it looks like a radical change of the looks of Klingons, especially since it's ten years before Kirk.

Talaxingons?

I have serious doubts that I'm even actually going to watch this, to be honest.

io9 is now reporting that they might not be Klingons after all. The extra that originally posted the pic has deleted it, and when asked to confirm the picture he denied they're actually Klingons, but something else instead.

CBS needs to course correct an give us something to actually get excited about. I can't believe they stuck with the ship design after the epic fail of the video they released earlier.

I'm calling BS on that one. They're clearly supposed to be Klingons, and CBS is doing damage control.

"Hey, did you like the decon chamber? Well you're gonna LOVE the olive oil orgies on Discovery!! ".

We are in a golden age of TV and movie science fiction and fantasy and somehow Star Trek is on life support. I just don't get it.

Some more casting.
Starfleet and other ships, no damned Discovery crew.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/390713-star-trek-discovery-recruits-three-starfleet-officers

Wrong font forehead.

I didn't even like it there, honestly, but it was only 90 seconds of a two hour flick.

That Klingons are getting the bulk of the focus yet AGAIN was a shit sundae. The horrendous redesign is just the cherry on top.

The Klingon forehead has been established for over thirty years and has been pretty standard since TNG. It doesn't need to be redesigned. The focus is on Klingons, not Romulans, not Andorians, not Vulcans, or any of the other beloved species we know little to nothing about, Fuller left the show, the show got delayed and the 50th anniversary went by with a whimper, the ship looks horrible, it's on All Access, there's apparently another ship that looks like it either fits in the Enterprise timeline or TNG era, but hey, the chair looks cool.

William Shatner may be an asshole, but he understood how Trek ticks.
You make the captain the star, the cast rotates around him as he problem solves the issue of the week, and the issue is something from the news headlines.
Bam, there you go.
You CAN have lower decks stories, you CAN have other ship stories, hell, even TOS had "The Galileo Seven".
BUT, the above is the core.
If you make anyone else but the captain the lead, guess what? That's the captain in everything but name.
You're not fooling anyone.
Sasha from TWD is captain even if you're calling her "Number One".
Sisko started out a commander, but guess what? We call him captain now for all 7 seasons.
Pick a captain, pick a ship, chart a course.
It's not brain surgery.
The brain surgery comes in the modern issue stuff.
I'm always wary when shows over complicate their premise.

It's not a complicated formula. Star Trek should be an easy sell in this era, but apparently they can't seem to get a fifty year old recipe right.

I don't even understand why they are going back to the original timeline.

The whole point of AbramsTrek was to leave behind the old stuff and give writers freedom to tell new stories without worrying about canon violations or having to read through the Star Trek appendices and tech manuals.

If you are gonna go back to a specific point in the original timeline (ST6) then DO it. Don't half ass it. Movie era uniforms, Movie era Klingons, Movie era ship designs.

If you are gonna go off and do your own thing just do it in the Abrams Universe where the sky is the limit.

Maybe they realize what I've maintained for years.

The Abramsverse is a creative dead end for Star Trek because fundamentally it is based on fans accepting the recasting of the original characters. And that cast is not available for a future regular series.

So another reinvention of the Trek universe was inevitable.

Or tell stories about a claustrophobic tailor with a drug problem and turn out the best Trek ever.

Trek needs to be reinvented, as it has been several times before. Otherwise, we might as well stick with the several hundred hours we've already got. If this fails, it will fail because it doesn't do enough good stuff, not because it doesn't do things the old way.

Beat me to it.

The original rote by-the-numbers Trek died with Voyager. Even Bermaga knew that, or else they wouldn't have begged for Enterprise to be held off another season.

And yeah, Sisko was the captain,* but honestly? I don't think DS9 revolved around him, at least not since season two. If Avery Brooks had quit half-way through the series over contract issues like Patrick Stewart had considered, how would that have affected the show negatively when nearly the whole cast and damn near all the supporting characters could hold their own? That's no diss on Brooks' talent but a compliment to the obvious love and care shown to finding creative solutions to the unexpected (ie, Nana Visitor's pregnancy in season 4).

If Mulgrew or Bakula walked from their respective shows, the hole would've been glaringly obvious because their casts outside of the leads were as thin as the tissue Dayton jerks off to space battles with.

*Fun fact: the commander of any Navy vessel is called Captain regardless of his or her actual rank.

Because of producer burnout, and arrogance that wouldn't let them admit they were burned out.
That, and the shutting out of submission scripts, which was the life blood of TOS and TNG.

Yep, B&B are to blame, not the basic formula.

O Rly?

Coto was given carte blanche for Enterprise's fourth season and that shit doesn't hold up at all on a,second viewing....and I say this as someone for whom Enterprise was my foot into the Trek world.

I won't deny that burnout contributed to what we got but that doesn't mean writers can't try out something new, at least. And then if it does fail, then by all means go make TNG part 4 for Series 7.

But I'm sure we're all in agreement that as is there seems to be a lot of red flags going off.

Red flags indeed.

Do you have to be a bitch?

Not for me so far. No green ones either. Just random noise at this point, which leaves me excited simply because it's another chance at Trek. (Also, I'll get it at no extra cost in my Netflix package since I'm outside the US )