Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

Lesbians?!

I'm surprised its going to be a 15 episode first season.

I thought that 8-12 episode seasons was more the norm for "niche" series made these days.

Star Trek is hard.

^Wow. Sounds like they were trying to reinvent the wheel.

Couldn't they have just saved money and still put out a pretty good product by hiring the guys from Star Trek Continues, Axanar, or a couple of the other higher quality Trek fan productions.

Those all suck.

Compared to Voyager and Enterprise?

Be reasonable.

Sounds like bullshit to me. They started out with different talent in charge of this, then canned them, probably because of creative differences with the studio. Then they hired on new people who would do what the studio wanted. That's pretty much all there is to it - they probably started from scratch again.

Captain Malfoy...I'm mean, Gabriel Lorca.

I like the blue, and I could grow to like the frills.

Transporter room.

Phasers.

That's a transporter room?

I hate the uniforms.

Speaking of, a fan has done a CSI level dissection of all the photos, and reverse engineered the uniforms into a schematic

Nothing so far looks ten years before Kirk and star fleet didn't adopt the delta symbol until after TOS. The delta was specific to the Enterprise.

Nope, ENT had Starfleet with a sideways delta that was a halfway evolution between NASA and TOS, and VOY had the Cochrane era Friendship One probe with a delta.

Same thing I said elsewhere: I don't think there's anything in canon that says this, and the non-canon Federation novel makes the delta such a natural choice for Starfleet insignia it's a wonder they didn't adopt it sooner.

There's a continuum from "every ship has its own unique emblem" and "there's a single emblem for the whole fleet". There could easily be one or two "standard" insignia that most ships share, with the opportunity for particular ships to have their own insignia if they have a special mission or if the Captain asks nicely. This is still the frontier era, everything is in flux and anything goes.

As for me, just seeing those division symbols again makes me happy.

I thought it was the set of the Gong Show (ask your parents).

So, sorta like a wrong font.

That ship has already sailed anyway.
The Kelvin uniforms look more futuristic than even the JJverse-TOS uniforms, and up until the very second the Narada appears, the Kelvin is prime timeline.

I fear that complaints about the badge will be the least of problems with the show.

Wait a moment. Pocket zipper? On a Starfleet uniform?! SACRILEGE!!!

That's because it's 2017 and not 1967.

The uniform looks good, and I'm really not bothered about the delta - that's been retconned a few times now.

TOS was never designed to be consistent, that it ended up mostly that way was more down to the writers and good luck than any actual planning, so I'm willing to forgive a few more retcons if the series is any good.

Star Trek: Discovery to ditch a long frustrating Trek rule

The no conflict rule only appeared with TNG. There was plenty of conflict among crew in TOS. To say nothing of the admiralcy, which was apparently recruited among the most corrupt and insane senior staff across the fleet.

You never want to be an Admiral in Starfleet, it's risky business.

Yeah it's a bit of an overstatement. There was conflict within Starfleet in DS9 Voyager and Enterprise. Marquis. Section 31. Captain Ransom. Vulcans. Col Green. Robocop wrath of khan. The whole Briar Patch thing.

I don't like the link seeming to claim that Michael Piller was against the "Roddenberry Rule". I've read accounts of Piller being its most ardent defender and claiming that writers who couldn't write stories without internal conflict being "without imagination".

I fully intend to (find a way to) watch it.