Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

don't sweat what you can easily mentally retcon in seconds.
Example: Starfleet experimented with individual ship designs under Admiral A, his successor Admiral B decided to go back to all ships wearing the same delta. Probably 10 other ways you could explain it without thinking too hard.

Or we could simply say: it looks good and that's why it is being used on TV. End of story

I think I said it a couple pages back, holographic skins over the consoles in TOS.
Also, the little delta scales on the Discovery uniforms become the micro deltas on the JJTtrek uniforms, become invisible NANO deltas on the TOS uniforms.

For good or ill, just three months from today. And though I'm not optimistic seeing a new chapter in Star Trek opened is still kind of exciting.

If my experience in the Navy is any litmus test, that was the most accurate thing that TNG got right.

The way Paramount/CBS has been treating Trek lately is dismal at best. They barely promoted Star Trek Beyond and that was up against Suicide Squad and Ghostbusters (which they knew even before all the controversy about that movie started up).

Holographic skins over the TOS console? That's what you say the the jelly buttons are?

Yep, solid LCARS.

I'm fine with that.

Frakes tapped to direct. http://ew.com/tv/2017/06/27/star-trek-discovery-jonathan-frakes/

It's just one episode though.

All the same, that's a plus.

Have you seen Star Trek: Insurrection?!?!?

Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner assraped the script before he came along.

What did Steward & Spiner do tot he script?

I thought Insurrection was sabotaged by Michael Piller basing it on his application of Rogaine (seriously).

Hmm, maybe it was Nemesis I'm thinking of.
They're kind of a blur.

Note, after Michael Piller (who said he was inspired to write the story for Insurrection while applying his Rogaine) made that much ridiculed claim, he suddenly switched gears and claimed he was inspired by Conrad's "Heart of Darkness".

Ever notice:

It seems that whenever someone writes crappy stuff they like to claim they were trying to emulate "Heart of Darkness"?

What gives?

Yes, Spiner wanted his,"Ship out of danger" moment and John Logan simply didn't know Trek very well.

And Stewart wanted to play with dune buggies, and wanted the evil twin plot.

There are going to be novels and comics.
@garamet, hey, they're back in the prime universe, novels, maybe try to get on board?
Just sayin...

http://trekmovie.com/2017/06/28/star-trek-discovery-novel-tie-in-coming-september-comic-to-follow/

It's a shame because look what Tom Hardy has become. The movie had great potential and the exchange between Shinzo and Picard was great, but they threw in all of the other bullshit with Troy and the Vampire Remans and all the stuff all already mentioned.

"evil twin" plot devices had their place.

In the 1960s!.

To put it in a 21st century movie to me just looks stupid beyond belief.

Plus it introduced a staggeringly huge plot hole.

Somehow a few decades ago, when Picard was just another Starfleet officer, the Remans managed to look into the future and see he would become one of Starfleet's greatest. One they could take the time and expense to clone.

Same with that episode where Picard's supposed "son" turned up. As Phil Farrand in "The Nitpickers Guide to Next Generation Trekkers" said. paraphrased

"Apparently somewhere is a guide to whomever Starfleet officers have slept with including times and places".

Actually, no, that's the one ST movie I haven't seen all the way through. What I gather is wrong with the movie, from reviews and scraps I have seen, seems to be largely in the script anyhow.

Oh, right, I still need to watch Beyond. One of the two, then, and the one I am less interested in anyway.

Beyond is pretty solid, best of JJ Trek, IMO.

I'll also add that Beyond felt closest to TOS and really felt like a "real" Trek movie.

Death in Winter picked up the threads, but I can't remember much about the book.

It would have made more sense had there been a program by the Romulans to clone hundreds of potential future prospects. Each prospect having several clones who all battle to be the best, with the rest getting killed off.

After Picard's court martial, Shinzon gets binned off to the mines, the Romulans assuming he's never going to get another decent command because that's just how the Romulans roll.

You've got one plot then that makes more sense then, a Shinzon who has come to hate Picard as his actions has destroyed his glorious future, as well as the Romulans for abandoning him, and a future paranoid plot of What If There Are Romulan Clones in Starfleet?

Why can't the writers who actually create the screenplays show this kind of imagination??

I've had an odd life when I look back - there are sandwiches named after me, I've been mistaken for a hitman, practically invented the mainstream use of one of the web 2.0 technologies without realising it and done backing music for porn phone lines.

I imagine most script writers have had a rather more prosaic existence, and their writing reflects that.

Somebody's gonna die! http://io9.gizmodo.com/game-of-thrones-inspired-star-trek-discovery-to-kill-m-1796573253

Honestly, the only parts of Nemesis I can even remotely follow is everything before the buggy chase and after the Troi mindrape scene (which, who the hell gave that shit a greenlight with the TNG crew FFS?)