By the way, a couple things here. 1) TNG was ended at season 7 due to rising costs. Not technically a cancelation, but there you go. 2) Likewise, DSC was ended at season 5 to get around contract renegotiations. 3) Television economics are complicated. For instance, All Elite Wrestling just got a 5 year streaming contract at WBD even though their flagship show is barely cracking 600,000 viewers a week and they struggle to fill 5,000-seat arenas. 4) Considering that TNG, DS9, VOY, and the TOS films were ultra-woke, it appears the mistake DSC and other Nu Treks made was not being woke enough.
Likewise, DSC was ended at season 5 to get around contract renegotiations All I'm saying is that when SNW is old enough for new contracts - PAY THEM. 50 episodes is very much not enough. (they won't)
Even assuming you had actual figures for merch sales that you could point to (you probably don't), why would merch sales be an accurate measurement of how well NuTrek is received? There are numerous factors that could affect how much NuTrek's merch makes (or doesn't) that have little to nothing to do with the inherent quality of NuTrek as entertainment. To name some off the top of my head: 1. Marketing 2. Quality/quantity of the merch 3. Limits to disposable income among the fans against the backdrop of a pandemic/inflation/etc
Especially #3. Most of the official merch I'm aware of is insanely expensive, but things like BluRay sets are top sellers on Amazon, even Discovery.
Official Star Trek merch is abreast insanely expensive. I just pre-ordered the new Exo6 Wesley Crusher figure, for instance. Cost? $225. TOS Phaser prop replica from Factory Entertainment? $800. Hell, someone paid $12,000 for T'Pol's uniform at a recent props auction. On the opposite side of that, what were the pegwarmers for the Playmates figures that were (briefly) re-released a couple of years ago? The TOS and TNG figures. What were the hardest ones to find? The new ones from Prodigy and DSC. But I'm guessing since @Steal Your Face never came back to answer these questions, he actually just doesn't know.
And, from the same company that gives us the $800 Phaser, a $17,000 USS Enterprise D. https://factoryent.com/products/star-trek-u-s-s-enterprise-ncc-1701-d
When JMS was plotting Babylon 5, his original plan was for two separate series each lasting five seasons. I'd be down for five years of SNW with Pike, then five years of TOS 2.0 with most of not all of the cast brought over in some capacity.
I'm honestly hoping this happens. So far I love how they've handled Kirk, Spock, Uhura, Chapel, and T'Pring. They can do this.
Yes BUT Paul Wesley. I'm sorry, he's simply wrong for the part. Plus, he was over a decade too old to begin with and the length of time between finishing seasons will make the problem progressively worse. He's now 42 and in the episodes already filmed he's playing a character that's supposed to be in his late 30's. By the time 5 seasons of SNW have aired he'll be what, 47? another year or two to get TOS 2.0 on the air so pushing 50 while playing a guy who's supposed to be 32-33... then 5 seasons of the second show scattered over a decade or close to it and you have a guy in his late 50's playing a character 20 years younger. They should have cast Kirk a little young in the first place, say 24-25, in order to cushion this a bit. And they probably feel they CANT recast the central character.
Oh yes, I can't really disagree there. I forgot he's in his 40s already. I mean, if he can look like he's in his 30s while he heads into his 50s, sure, but I see what you're saying.
See, I couldn't disagree more. Initially I wasn't sold on Paul Wesley, but then I rewatched all of TOS and, in my mind at least, he nails classic Kirk perfectly. As for his age, he looks younger at 42 than Shatner did at 35. That's not exactly surprising, though. 45 is what 35 was 50 years ago. I didn't even know he was my age till I read your post. And considering Picard is supposed to be about twenty years older than Patrick Stewart, I'm not too bothered about the ages of the actors themselves. But to really emphasize the point, this is 45 in 1996: And this is 45 in 2024: So yeah, lol.
One other thing to consider is that the producers are intentionally preventing Wesley from looking as close to TOS Kirk as he could look, at least for now. I googled him just after he was cast, he looked a lot more like Kirk in some of casual photos than he does on the show. Which makes sense, none of the characters on SNW are quite the people we saw in TOS yet. That's the point.
So when will Spock become the guy who doesn't have a secret human sister or practice silly acrobatic kung fu fighting?
I mean, in Jake's defense, he had a childhood out of "Natural Born Killers" and then he put some hard miles on himself with the substances. As one would do with the childhood and all...
Don't get me wrong, I love Jake. He's always been my favourite wrestler. But I think it's a startling example of how our concepts of what 45 looks like has changed.
And a wife/fiancee that never came up until she was standing right in front of Kirk. And a secret famous ambassador father that he never talked about until he was also standing right in front of Kirk. And a possible super secret other brother whose wedding Picard attended.
If you never saw or heard of karate, and then you saw a guy do a karate kick, and he explained it was karate, would you assume it was just the kicking, or a whole fighting style went with it? I just assume it's like that for "tal shaya".
Point still stands that you can't dismiss his fighting style because it doesn't seem logical to you. I suppose you'd rather see Spock continue to use a double axe handle instead.
Wasted energy on risky maneuvers that are meant to display athleticism more than they are for efficient results is not logical. What I would expect is something more closely resembling modern military combat systems.
Yeah. That's also boring to watch. Just like UFC is more boring to watch than WWE because it's just a couple of guys rolling around on the floor together.
