Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

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  1. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    gotta say, that is one of the best versions of the tunic Pike has on.

    They made a point that they were brand new
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    Yep. I also like that tunic. It has a real utilitarian uniform feel while also being practical. I consider it a beautifully faithful update to the TOS tunics of the day and wish they would have kept them.
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    Speaking of which, how this episode happened:

    Q: "I wonder what would happen if I increased the intelligence of and gave illusion powers to a random tribble?"
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    This is the only logical conclusion one can draw.
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  5. Nova

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    I kinda write off the uniform thing as a product of the illusion trying to get in La'an's head with someone who seemed to be just like her.

    Not saying they didn't make a mistake but I can work around it.
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  6. Nova

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    While there are many opportunities for divergent timelines, my contention is that all of the "3rd generation" Trek is a result of "First Contact" creating a new "prime" by leaving behind Borg tech.
  7. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    fair, but it's not the first time.
    Trek Culture suggested that it was erasing Discovery, and it's kinda hard not to see once it's been spoken.
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    Really loved this one. Really loved it.
    But then, I love horror. That's my genre.
    And Star Trek has rarely come close to doing horror right (though they did a few times).
    This was just perfect though. A haunted ship. And no answer to it, just the question of "what the hell happened?"
    In a universe with beings like Q or the Organians or the Prophets, is there even such a thing as the "super"natural in Star Trek? It's not a ghost it's just something that leaves behind negatively charged ions.
    It was really cool to see them dig into the fact that even in the future, there's just some stuff we really can't explain.
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    Yeah, wasn't that idea actually officially discussed at one time? It sounds really familiar.
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    I will say that's something I genuinely liked about the episode. The ending was left open. It wasn't wrapped up in a neat little bow, which leaves it for a future story or it's just one of those things that happens when you're out beyond the reach of civilization. Kind of like the Mary Celeste.
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    La'an: *starts breaking through the hallucination and notices the super-intelligent illusion-generating tribble.*

    Zombie Captain: "Pay no attention to that tribble behind the curtain!"

    La'an: *Punches tribble.*

    Tribble: *rolls away... slithers away... scoots away? How the fuck do tribbles move?*
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    Disagree. Ugly as fuck.

    Looks like he's wearing a bowtie, for gawd sakes.
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    I liked it. It leaned more toward the formal tunics they wore on special occasions.

    The more utilitarian tunics of SNW are better though.

    The STD uniforms, however, are ass.
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    Good episode. Yeah, it's filler. But it kept me engaged.
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    You want they should be velour?

    Ya look like a 1974 Oldsmobile in this.

    [​IMG]
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  16. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey cynicism isn't wisdom, it's surrender.

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    Okay, this may have been the most solid fun episode so far.

    Dave Foley is always a treat

    Una's karaoke scenes

    Totally worth it.
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    What the fuck did I just watch?
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    The Griffin Incident… I’m going to rate this episode as “incomplete.” There’s certainly room for the unknown in Star Trek but punting this incident to Division 12 with no follow up would be sci-fi malpractice, IMHO. In this universe we have the Q, the pah wraiths and even those aliens from the S1 episode Children of the Comet. You could throw in there the phenomenon in The Naked Time/Now. This story needs something more to justify its existence.

    Human Best Friend or Star Trek: Dude Where’s My Car. I decided to take a break 25 minutes into it. I get the feeling that these whimsical filler episodes that build characters and relationships would be better appreciated by me if the seasons were longer.
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    Yeah, you're gonna see Division 12 again. Trust me.

    You bring up an important point: the seasons are way too short. Ten episodes each season doesn't give enough room for the potential this show has.

    Fifteen episodes would be a big improvement. I'd love about 20-25.
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    SNW S04E03, "My Human Best Friend"

    This was funny, and for me much needed after last week's episode. I squee'd out loud when Dave Foley appeared, and the episode just got better from there. So many great little moments in this episode and, yes, Spock seeing Scotty and Ortegas as plants had me *dying*, along with the "I apologize for the mess," and "I am clearly inebriated" while looking completely normal and the room looking totally spotless.

    Everyone got some really fun moments, Pike slipping into his cowboy style speaking, Una singing Klingon power ballads, Uhura having a huge party (her hands are so soft!), La'an beating the ever loving crap out of everyone, Chapel being hyper-competitive in the bingo parlor, M'Benga behind the bar (it is green), and of course our two main characters trying to figure out just what the hell happened. Everyone was just a blast to watch.

    The negotiations at the end where Pike's trying to be serious through the remnants of the atmospheric intoxication still in his system, reading off of the tattoos on his fingers of the speech (that one killed me), and I'm sure some fan who can read the language tattooed on the side of his face will tell us all what it means.

    This was a fun episode. Definitely worth a rewatch.
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    I did get a kick out of Una singing “Total Eclipse of the Heart” in Klingon. :lol:

    I can picture some Klingon diplomat coming across ancient American entertainment and declaring this song, Shakespeare and prune juice to be true to Klingon heritage and adopting it.
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    Alan Wake disagrees:

    “Stephen King once wrote, “Nightmares exist outside of logic, and there’s little fun to be had in explanations; they’re antithetical to the poetry of fear.” In a horror story, the victim keeps asking why - but there can be no explanation, and there shouldn’t be one. The unanswered mystery is what stays with us the longest, and it’s what we’ll remember in the end.”
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    I adore Rebecca Romijn anyway, and she's got some pipes on her, so yeah, that scene was really good. I do wish we'd have seen more from Babs as M'Benga. I've read in places that he's a genuinely funny guy and I'd like for them to let loose so we can see that.

    Also, the scene where Spock sees Ortegas and Scotty as the plants when they're back on the ship, and when they leave, you can hear the pot scraping the floor.
    I just want to say I CANNOT stop thinking about it and laughing my ass off.
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    Can we all take a moment to concur that Celia Rose Gooding has some impressive heavy phaser banks, as demonstrated in this last episode?

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    She is an impressively attractive woman. I got to spend a little bit of time talking to her on the cruise and, yeah, she can definitely stand in for Nichelle.
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    Going into this episode I didn't expect that much. I thought there might be some parts that might be a little funny. The episode was great, the chimney 6 was very well done. It liked that it wasn't slap stick style, but just the kind of fun you can have with friends when you get buzzed and goofy.

    Keeping it centered around Scotty and Ortegas played off well. They're the two people at work that are fun to be around but don't get along until they wind up drinking buddies. And they missed and almost hit the perfect scene to explain how Scotty was missing a finger. Which I was thinking soon after Scotty took of the Mugato mask. He could have done something, and a techno babble but would say that something about worrying 6 around the warp core wouldn't let his finger degenerate. Almost had it with the detached thumb.

    "Ok plant boy!"

    I feel like we got to see how the actors themselves let their real fun selves out. Rebecca Romijin did a great job with the Klingon cover of Total Eclipse of the Heart.

    Nice Easter Egg with the animated ad using the animation style from the animated Trek series.

    There were also a few fun Easter Eggs when Ortegas and Scotty woke up. The Andorian headband, the Tribble, the stuffed dog from The Enemy Within, the Guinan outfit on the background character in the hallway.

    Have to add that Uhura and Una both looked gorgeous in this episode, Uhura in her party and makeup outfit, Una on stage.
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    An awesome Star Trek series that doesn't take itself too seriously.
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    there were some spots where you HAVE to turn off your brain (How DID the actual Jim Kirk make it from the planet to the Enterprise without Spock knowing he was real?) but that kind of ruins the vibe of an episode like this. By definition, whatever happens you just role with it.

    What's impressive is that while this is structured around Scotty/Ortegas, they got a lot of mileage out of everyone in the cast. Historically the best Star Trek "light" episodes manage to do that (TOS notwithstanding). I particularly like the scenes with Spock.
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    This doesn't seem particularly hard to have to rationalize.
    To the extent that Spock saw him, he just figured that Kirk was still "Kirk" and part of the ongoing hallucination.

    A better question is why Kirk would have gone out of his way to board Enterprise.
    He's already on planet and presumably still has shore leave on the planet for a bit and is supposed to be going to his own ship at some other time. Why would he leave with the Enterprise crew, especially when they are heading up all suddenly.

    Another better question is why none of the other people revealed that they too were seeing Kirk on the shuttle and thus make it clear that Kirk was real to Spock. Which I guess is a variant on the first question. And I guess the answer is that the rest of the crew were still tripping their own balls and not focused on that rather than talking to or interacting with Kirk.
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    I enjoyed E02, the Griffin horror one. It reminded me of Event Horizon, a 90s film.

    E03 where they're all vacationing and getting high -- couldn't even finish it. Godawful filler. Trek needs to have a certain baseline of seriousness, and this dips way below -- almost as bad the musical episode from a prior season.