Then stop responding to me. There’s nothing to talk about, zero information. I am talking about the show, specifically the producer.
I also haven't been watching much Discovery, so I'm a little confused. This Pike character was created for Discovery and is a spinoff, rather than a brand new character?
This thread started to not make sense when I saw a bunch of posts from @Diacanu apparently directed at himself. Then I realized it's probably because one of the posters I have on ignore is having a meltdown. Me so happy.
*FF proceeds to shit the bed in every single modern Trek thread.* I mean, I guess it's not a meltdown as much as sublimation.
Dicky whines about wanting to discuss the new series. Whelp, I've scoured the web and all I can find is click bait and the same exact information we got yesterday. There's not jack shit to discuss other than speculation.
You could, y'know, discuss your own speculation rather than relying on Youtube to support your own preconceived feelings of victimhood. I mean, we don't HAVE a crayon font, but you could give it a whirl.
I mean... One could assume that Spock doesn't really become the colder, more serious TOS Spock until he becomes first officer and feels the need to act like the voice of logic on the bridge, especially compared to Kirk and McCoy.
Here's some speculation for you @Diacanu , I wonder if John Campea will shit on the fans and call them man babies if the criticize the show?
From Youtube comments. CBS is following its usual pattern with Star Trek: 1) Discovery S1 was hideously bad so they promised S2 would improve by announcing the hiring of Anson Mount and Hipster Spock. 2) They barely allowed Mount much screen time and Spock’s rewritten character was a laughingstock. (Oh, and Rebecca Romijm ate a cheeseburger.) So at the season’s end, Star Fleet has to pinkie-swear to the audience that Discovery never existed - and CBS announced Picard!!!! 3) Picard premieres, plods through three opening episodes that should have been one, searches for the guy who’s the key to everything, who is killed and forgotten. The doddering Picard and his ragtag band of forgettable cyphers quickly shed their audience despite J.L. (!) wearing a beret!!!!! So now since the “surprise” denouement of Picard failed to strike a chord with anyone - here comes Capt. Pike! 4) Oh, and did someone say James Kirk?!!!!They keep promising they will improve, but when you’ve got the same incompetent chef in the kitchen, why do you expect the diners to not remain disappointed.
I just hope they don't kill off Number One to justify TOS Spock having such a similar personality, since she's the only announced character whose future isn't already set in stone.
Whaddya mean? We know what happened to her: She got tired of Spock ignoring her advances when she was a bridge officer so she went back to school and became a nurse on the Enterprise. Then, after all attempts at getting into Spock's pants failed, she fucked off to Betazed, married some dude, and then squeezed out a daughter who became the counselor on the Enterprise in a futile attempt to connect with her mother and gain her approval.
It's so incredible to me to see you and your YT sources display, without a hint of self-irony, the worst parody of the worst parodies of fragile masculinity in what I thought were the most ludicrous feminist propaganda tales. But it's actually true, isn't it? You actually feel threatened. You literally feel threatened whenever someone even speaks other than the dashing white male hero, who is revered by everyone around him minutes after boarding the ship, who is competent at everything and loves and is loved by every single character, -- but that's not enough! Whenever someone speaks up to him, albeit always with respect and profound affection, you feel threatened. Because he isn't monologing his way through the whole fucking episode alone -- and because he has crewmembers that sometimes disagree with him respectfully, as opposed to two chief officers who constantly berate him and either belittle his intellect or outright swear at him, as Kirk's chief officers did for him -- but Kirk's officers were male and white, and when in doubt, Southern.
Oh I could absolutely endorse THAT suggestion! Edit: So the named character in The Cage beyond the Big 3 are Dr. Phillip Boyce - Combs works for me unless there's something jucier to be had Lt. Jose Tyler - originally played by a guy who didn't look remotely like a "Jose" so you'd probably not try to match appearance on a recast. Typically a role like this would be an actor we probably never heard of. Yeoman J.M. Colt - also gonna be a small name but what about Jennette McCurdy? Some other fanservice I would find fun: Captain April - this is kind of a gimme Matt Decker - make this meaty, not just a cameo type thing. Luke Hensworth might be good here (I could see him playing Kirk if you were casting him right now, but he's too old for the in-universe Kirk who'd presumably be...27 or so?...during the first season of SNW Gary Mitchell - yes, I've been obsessed with this recasting for probably 15 years or so - he's just a character I'd like to see more of. Maybe he's serving under Decker at the moment? No particularly favorite actor springs to mind here, I'm probably forgetting someone. An Andorian in the regular crew - maybe chief engineer? Maybe female? (this list is pretty male-heavy) Deneva/George Kirk - one thing we never really saw in TOS was the initiation of a new colony. I'm not sure the time gap is sufficient here for the level of development (unless you postulate the cities are pre-built before the colonists arrive) but a story of the Enterprise escorting a colonist ship to their new home was in a series of novels I read once and the concept stuck with me; Garth - Yes, but...maybe no? At least, my hunch is that it's too late (in universe time) for him to still be an active Starfleet captain. But if not, Pike being the one tasked to go get him once he went crazy would be an interesting story and potentially make for some high-profile casting. Timothy Olphant maybe? A Trill - possibly a regular member of the crew? Or a high profile guest. Something to tie threads together forward as well as back. If it's a guest, you could lean in and go with Emony Dax (the version that is reportedly set to appear in a Discovery novel this year so therefor the (un)official current Dax bonding. No idea what sort of story would bring her into contact with Pike unless the Enterprise actually visited the homeworld. You could cast anyone you might dream on if you went with Emony. Anyone I suggested would just be one of my favorites like, say, Amy Acker or Morena Baccarin. I'm sure there are examples from the newer shows (TNG and following) or maybe you postulate a very old T'Pol but I'll stop now.