Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

Could either the thread starter or the mods change the thread title to "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds"?
I mean, this thread is obviously gonna be the home for the series now, may as well get it right.

So we're looking at four separate Star Trek series being aired at once? I know TV is different these days but seems like a lot.

I count potentially five series (Discovery, Picard, Section 31, animated, Pike).

There is a thing called overkill.

Ask Disney how it went for them when they over-saturated the market with Star Wars. (They made money, but each successive outing made less money.)

FTFY

Jesus.

I imagine that the new season of one will start when the season of another ends. So we won’t have new episodes of Discovery hitting at the same time as Picard or this series. The goal is to prevent Trekkies from signing up and then dropping the service once the season ends.

I don't think all 6 will be on concurrently.
If they rotate 'em like CW shows, it'll be fine.

Edit: Shit, Turk beat me to it.

Yeah, they said in several interviews that the goal was to have one series of Trek on at any given time. Which is perfectly fine by me.

I believe the series title was simply New Earth. It was pretty okay but felt like it could have been a lot more. I agree that the beginning of a colony is a fantastic storytelling opportunity.

What's Prodigy?

Wesley: The Series.

An early online service started by AT&T and CBS.

well, other than the animated stuff which is really not addressing the same market niche, there's not really a lot of overlap. If each of them are running 12-13 weeks with potentially 8-10 weeks in between, it gives them a lot of time to produce a new season. The danger might be on whether or not you really want 2 years or close to it between the arrival of a new season of any given program.

For me personally, 4 shows with a new one taking up each quarter in a year works better so that there's never not a new episode of something this week.

https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/star-trek-prodigy.119951/

I, for one, am not really interested in either of them. I can't be the only one. The folks who did "Rick and Morty" or "Steven Universe" (I've never watch a full episode of either) are often the same folks who watch, say, The Expanse - but not entirely. it's a different aesthetic.

Yeah. I'll give it a go, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it holds my interest.

That sort of timeframe makes me worry about a return to the Voyager/Enterprise era where they'd crank out mediocre material just for the sake of filling the timeslot.

Back then you had the same showrunners spread thin, this time they seem to be delegating better.

No they’re not. Kurtzman is working on at least the big three and so is Goldsman and Byers.

Job titles and screen credits are usually pretty worthless in determining who does what. Those things are often handed out in lieu of bigger paychecks. Plenty of people are credited with titles like "Executive Producer" or "Co-Executive Producer" who literally had almost nothing (or actually nothing) to do with the actual production process, but they were needed in some capacity to make the film happen. (They were needed as an actor on the film/TV show and the real producers didn't have the money in the budget to give the star their usual rate. Or it's a studio exec who got the job because they're related to a senior executive and as part of the deal, the person's name has to be on X number of productions a year.) Shit like that. Gene Roddenberry has credit for the lyrics to the TOS theme. They were never used because they're so fucking awful, but because he wrote the lyrics, his estate gets a royalty check every time the theme is used. That's why Alexander Courage quit and they just recycled incidental music for all the episodes.

Same shit, different toilet.

Nope. You need to pay attention to people who work in the industry, not fans or puff pieces written to promote a movie/TV series. In every production by a major studio, there are a large number of people who have their names attached to a project who have absolutely nothing to do with it. They might show up to the premiere, but that's it. If you read the credits, however, you'll think that they're somebody important to the production. This generally isn't talked about by a lot of folks publicly, because if, as Shia La Boeuf found out, you publicly trash-talk someone, you'll find a hard time getting another job. (Not that he should have had one to begin with, but that's another story.)

Remember, we're talking about an industry where Harvey Weinstein being a rapist was an open secret for decades. (Not to mention any number of celebrities being gay.) Just because Kurtzman (or anyone else, for that matter) is credited with being the showrunner, doesn't mean that they're actually doing that job. There's a reason why the trope of an inept executive who has a brilliant secretary that actually does everything exists. It's because many of the people in Hollywood have had to deal with exactly those kinds of people. Chuck Jones, in his autobiography, talks about how they had to do end-runs around such people to produce the original Looney Tunes cartoons. He's not the only one with such tales, either.

To put it more succinctly, Stan Lee gets a producer credit on a shitload of the Marvel movies, both MCU, and pre-MCU.
Do you REALLY think he had a hands-on role in developing those films?

Like, he even got one on Punisher.
Punisher isn't one of his guys.
He's on record saying he hates Punisher.
Do you really think he produced Punisher?
No, Avi Arad threw him a bone cuz he loves Stan.

Or, Marvel didn't want to get sued, again, by Stan. (He's sued them over royalties in the past, IIRC, it was after the Spiderman movies in '01 came out.)

Ah...did not know that.

It was over royalties for something and he got like $80 million over it. So, not a small chunk of change in terms of employee-related settlements. He mentioned it in an interview on Fresh Air. I don't remember which one it was, but he was on six episodes, it looks like.

This is pretty cool.

TBH I could spend an hour just gazing at that ship