Star Wars: Andor

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  1. Nova

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    when they originally dropped I watched the first two episodes and concluded "this is pretty dull" but as it's gone on and I kept seeing praise for it I thought "okay fine, when it gets up close to the end I'll try it again. Four episodes in and my interest has been captured. I like where it seems to be going.
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  2. Spaceturkey

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    Fun fact, it was a good reminder of what empires are like.

    Doesn't matter if they're running the trains on time or building the railroads in the first place...

    forget nazis, this is a pretty brazen comment on the FPI/UNICOR (which has been in place since Hitler was elected).

    I'm also guessing this is a private subcontractor within the Empire. Besides it still being before Palps nationalized the Mil/Ind complex, there's the matter of safety railings and other OSHA compliance
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  3. Steal Your Face

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    I knew they didn't just bring in Andy Serkis for no reason. I bet he dies saving Andor. "Never more than twelve."
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  4. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Each episode is better than the last. I loved the look at the ISB and how the supposedly sympathetic officer there is just as bad as any of them - worse because she's quite competent. The twist with Mothma's cousin was quite fun, and honestly that one caught me by surprise, but they definitely foreshadowed it. And the reveal at the end of the prison sequence was great storytelling.
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  5. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    That actress that they got to play the ISB officer has the bitchiest of resting bitch face I’ve e ever seen.
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    The prison reminded me of the Amazon worker horror stories.
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  7. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Kinda surprised that the usual suspects aren't squawking about the competent feee-male upstaging the guys, but...


    agreed though, Serkis nails that look of a guy who just realized the lie.
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    They're taking their time, but I'm digging it.

    I really liked the homage to the beginning of Leia's interrogation in ANH with the staging and camera movement they used for the beginning of Bix's interrogation. Note perfect.

    I'm reading this in another tab right now:


    Star Wars Gets Political
    But not in the way you might think.
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  9. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    That’s because they use allegory correctly like Star Trek did without the woke nonsense and Kathleen Kennedy telling fans that don’t like her vision that they’re sexist. It shows, not tells how evil the Empire is without pushing an agenda.
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  10. Steal Your Face

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    Good article.:techman:
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  11. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    SNORE!!!!
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  12. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    it's telling about yourself when you post shit like this presuming some sort of agenda ("won't replace us"? something like that?) and always presuming that somehow men, and specifically white men, are being disenfranchised. Is it that Rey's PT montage was longer than Luke's was in ESB?

    also:


    allegory
    noun
    al·le·go·ry ˈa-lə-ˌgȯr-ē

    pluralallegories
    1
    : the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths or generalizations about human existence
    a writer known for his use of allegory
    also : an instance (as in a story or painting) of such expression
    The poem is an allegory of love and jealousy.
    2
    : a symbolic representation



    so I'm left confused as to a) what the allegory is in Andor (unless you're suggesting all genre fiction is allegory?)

    and b) what "woke nonsense" you're blathering about in the first place? Black stormtroopers?
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  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I haven’t seen Wakanda Forever, but one thing I’ve heard is that it denigrates men in order to prop up the women. This was a complaint we heard with Captain Marvel. It seems to be a running theme for certain movies and franchises. And this was coming from women. I’m sure you’ll probably call them gender traitors or something like that. Andor let’s Andor be the star of his own show while also proving up the female protagonists without denigrating the men. Mon Mothma is shown to be a strong female protagonist and has had no interaction with Andor. Obviously she will become one of the key leaders of the Rebel Alliance and Andor will have to report to her at some point, but will have been earned.
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  15. Spaceturkey

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    we hear those complaints, sure... and I'm sure you can find couple of female commentators to support the bias-it gets clicks, after all.


    still, you haven't seen WK, supposedly misandry was a significant criticism about CM, there's a theme... a pattern, if you will... like a conspiracy against traditional portrayals to insert this anti man message into CERTAIN franchises et al... even non specified women say so!

    do you see how absurd you look?



    and seriously dude... stop with the preemptive disqualifications of obvious rebuttals. It only serves to show how empty your point is if you'd just take the time to think about it and not take it personally. Especially when you come up with overly dramatic shit like "gender traitors". Why is it you presume that supporting a broad concept like representation in media also means doing so non critically?


    Mon Mothma's entire arc is separate from Andor's, so I'm not sure WTF you're on about here? who will have earned what, exactly by the time of R1?


    Back in the days when "real men" didn't eat things like quiche, someone I considered halfway wise told me I could eat whatever was healthy, and take the limits of my perception with a grain of salt.
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  16. Nova

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  17. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Andor opening sequence - if it was made in 1975. Groovy.

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  18. Steal Your Face

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    Well, that was a nice cliffhanger.
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  19. Steal Your Face

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    That's what the parts were for.

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    I liked it. A little slow but it didn't bother me.

    Apparently next season involves a number of time jumps, finishing with the days leading up to the events of Rogue One.
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    That makes sense because Andor has to meet and reprogram K-2SO.
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  22. Spaceturkey

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    I like the fan theory that B2's brain goes into K2's body.
    His last bit of dialogue with Cassian kind of hints toward it in the vocal inflections and emotional expression.
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  23. The Original Faceman

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    Welp, guess he didn't find his sister.

    Remember that plot? The way the season started?
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    Oh yeah right - this show was really fucking great, probably the best SW tv show they've done as of yet. Makes up for the brutal disappointment that Obi Wan was
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  25. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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  26. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    If you haven't seen the movie and have no idea if the criticism is valid, then why bring it up.? Spoiler alert: it doesn't "denigrate" men at all. ( There are essentially four main male characters in the movie: Namor, M'Baku, Attuma and Ross. (five if you count the late T'Challa). None of them can reasonably be said be portrayed in a negative light because of their gender. They are each shown in their own way to be intelligent, powerful, charming, ruthless, pragmatic among other characteristics. The only one who arguably does not get as much respect is Ross, and frankly, as a CIA agent without the benefit of superior education, genes or technology, he is not on the same level as the other characters.
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  27. Spaceturkey

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    IOW-a woman is shown to be stronger/smarter/more capable than a dude

    MISANDRY!!!!! MTG said so!
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    Bump, because I just watched this and it's comfortably the best Star Wars since Rogue One. Some weak spots but some parts are magnificent. They seem to have leaned heavily on the history of the Irish rebel tradition.
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