Starfleet Academy series

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  1. Paladin

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    Right. You'd only have to educate a programmable holographic officer once, then you can spawn them at will. Why would you even bother with humans at that point?

    The people in this time are so comically unlimited by any scarcity or technical obstacle that the writers are going to have to constantly contrive ways for the villain to deprive them of their awesome abilities.

    Roddenberry made the people in early TNG too flawless, and it made them unrelatable and less interesting. NuTrek seems to be turning people into gods, which will also be uninteresting.
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    It's starting to sound like that gag from Spaceballs, where President Skroob uses a transporter to beam into the next room.
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  3. Crosis36

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    All of those comments are nitpicky bullshit.
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    You finding it inconvenient doesn't make it false.
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    No, it's lack of existence makes it false.
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    I was thinking of that too because it's only 100 years off. What would be smart is to revisit the Delta and Gama quadrant to see how they have developed. How are the dinosaur people doing? What about the planet with time dilatation?
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    It's an opinion. You are free to disagree. It will be alright. :itsokay:
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  9. Steal Your Face

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    A professional writer, everyone. I'm not surprised by this comment. Internal consistency matters not to modern writers. I'm going to guess your book reads like a CW script.
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  10. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    There; FF has said it out loud wriggle free. Youtube commenters are smarter than writers.
    You heard it here first.
    Glad you're missing this shit, Garamet.
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    Has it ever occurred to you that maybe some of them are writers? Has it also occurred to you that these people are fans?
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  12. Diacanu

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    Okay, for the sake of argument, let's give you that ALL the commenters on that channel are writers.
    Then you're just picking the ones that confirm your biases.
    Now, let's layer back on that you don't know who these fucktards are.
    Yeah.
    Okay then.
    Hurt inside.
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    For some reason, the way this shot is done really irritates me. It's one of the scenes that really makes me not want to watch this show.

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    I don't have to know who they are. They are fans that know the mechanics of the show. They probably have seen interviews or read books by the Okudas and know how the ship works better than the writers of the show. Let that sink in.
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    Believe me, my grumblings won't stop me from giving it a chance. There are things I already like about the series. I like the idea of Starfleet Academy being on a large training starship, I love Holly Hunter, Paul Giamatti, Robert Picardo, the pedigree for the series is top shelf. I think I'm more nervous because I want this show to be great and I want it to succeed. I don't want it to fail, I don't want Star Trek to fail, but I also want Star Trek to be true to its roots of social justice and a positive outlook for humanity's future. People are complaining about a female Jem'Hadar, but I love the concept. There's also a really shameful push at mocking people in the series for being fat, as if fat people haven't existed and won't continue to exist in humanity's future. Silliness.

    I do want to see some disabled folks, too, people with chronic illness that can't be cured but they're still treated like people. Everyone deserves to be in Star Trek's future humanity. I'm hoping we get that.

    Also, this is Starfleet Academy. This is the show that has been pushed for 40 years in various corners of the fandom. There's a lot riding on it, and I'm just really hoping they pull this off. It needs to land, otherwise I think we're going to see the top brass at Paramount/Skydance/Nordyne Defense Dynamics say "see, woke shit doesn't work, we need to show people that humans are better at fascism," and we lose what Star Trek represents and watch it become like the mirror universe, only unironically.
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    No.
    I. Said. Hurt. Inside!
    Do it!
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    I see we're at the point where you have no argument so you make "jokes".
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    Correction. A professional writer and literature professor.
    So if I say those complaints are nitpicky bullshit, it's because they are. Its the sort of thing put in a line item instead of mentioned in a workshop. It's the sort of critique that does nothing to improve the overall quality of the show for a general audience. It's the sort of critique that doesn't bother to address theme or characterization or any sort of deeper analysis whatsoever.
    I'm honestly not surprised you can't tell the difference. You're probably a big fan of EFAP to boot.

    And as for them being fans, so what? Enjoying something doesn't magically give someone superior insight. It doesn't improve the quality of their so-called "critique".
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    You offer nothing serious to respond to.
    You appeal to to the authority of cranks to justify falling for narratives that are as fake as sci-fi.
    But unlike sci-fi, your cranks are just an uninspiring pain in the gluteus.
    Humor cuts the boredom.
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    Almost all of these could be applied to various Star Trek episodes/movies prior. Again, if it were worth my time, I'd probably could find numerous times across pre-Kurtzman Trek when someone said "Red alert, shields up," when someone said "casualties" instead of "fatalities," when there are giant flashing things on a screen that the person should already understand from something else, when Trek ripped off itself in general or Wrath of Khan specifically, etc. etc.
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    I am a fan of EFAP though often don't have the time to watch and often they talk about something I haven't seen. There's nothing to address in terms of theme other than it looks like another revenge plot. As for characterization, they're doing to The Doctor what they did to Seven, completely changing the way he talks and his personality. You could say that he was reprogrammed, but that would mean that his individuality has been taken away and you would think that by that time period holograms would have rights. You could say that the doctor changed his own personality to fit the time period he's in, but I don't think they are going to explain the change. As for any other deeper analysis, well it looks like they're just recycling plots and stories we've seen before, "oh look more tentacles grabbing the ship." The ship interior looks somewhat similar to what we see on SNW and in Picard, there's no unique progression of design that tells me it's 1,000 years in the future. It looks more like the natural progression from Picard to the end of Picard. The external looks hideous and why do they have gigantic long flat nacelles?How is the ship overtaken so easily? I don't know what else I can say from a four minute clip other than nitpicks.
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    That's really the crux of it. There's not enough to make any sort of informed opinion.
    It's fine to dislike the way the ship looks and whatnot, but to complain about things like the Doctor saying there are no casualties is honestly just the sort of thing people looking for stuff to dislike will do.
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    Tellarite/Klingon bangin'... I mean I can see it.

    Tellarites would be pretty fucking appealing to Cardassian women too, if that ep where the Cardie scientist thought O'Brien's irritation with her was a sign of interest.

    Get porking.
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    They’ll fuck it up
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    I hope not.
    The best part of DSC 3-5, to me, was the Ni'Var plotline. It was a nice way to tie a bow on Spock's final mission, and also worked well with the destruction of Romulus angle. So even in a storyline I didn't like (The 31st century), I'm happy with that part of it.
    My hope is that, even if the Sisko thing is a minor subplot, it will at least be done as well as Ni'Var was.
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