"The 1980's are calling to ask for their foreign policy back."

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    I want to say no, and you'd probably say no, but I imagine an outsider who's seen America intervene in country after country after country both openly and covertly for decades wouldn't be so easily convinced.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States#Cold_War
    NATO's own website admits they've been getting cozier and cozier, even before Russia went after Crimea.

    • The 2009 Declaration to Complement the NATO-Ukraine Charter mandated the NUC, through Ukraine’s Annual National Programme, to underpin Ukraine’s efforts to take forward reforms aimed at implementing Ukraine’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations, in line with the decisions of the 2008 NATO Summit in Bucharest.
    • Cooperation has deepened over time and is mutually beneficial, with Ukraine actively contributing to NATO-led operations and missions.
    • Priority is given to support for comprehensive reform in the security and defence sector, which is vital for Ukraine’s democratic development and for strengthening its ability to defend itself.
    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_37750.htm
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  2. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti-establishment Staff Member Administrator

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    Right on cue. :dayton:

    Lavrov claims 'Russophobic' Baltics and Poland guiding NATO policy

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has blamed “Russophobic” Baltic states and Poland for allegedly guiding the policy of EU and NATO toward Moscow.

    Speaking to reporters after a meeting with his US counterpart, he said the “Russophobic minority led primarily by the Baltic states and Poland” force the EU and NATO to continue the allegedly “anti-Russian policy”.

    His comments came at a time when Russia has drawn over 100,000 troops on Ukraine’s borders, saying it seeks to prevent Kyiv forming closer relations with NATO.

    Lavrov met with his American counterpart Antony Blinken in Geneva on Friday, as the West seeks to prevent a further attack against Ukraine by Russia.
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  3. RickDeckard

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    :unsure:

    Are you being remotely serious? How is that even a question?
  4. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So, we would?
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  7. 14thDoctor

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    I mean... honestly? America isn't really trying to hide it anymore.

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  8. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    If Canada is invaded by us, you guys become refugees then you, @Spaceturkey and @Ten Lubak can stay with me.
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    You'll have to host and @WeAreBorg first.
  10. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Answer my questions and I’ll consider it.
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    Ugh, I'm ashamed to share the country with him.
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  12. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    It's funny, but when we talk about being invaded by a foreign power here, American lebensraum is the most likely scenario.
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    To be fair, Elon Musk is from South Africa.
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  14. Quincunx

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    Not to mention there was no coup against Evo Morales, and no evidence of U.S. involvement in the process that resulted in him leaving office.
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  15. Tuckerfan

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    What kind of square footage are we talking here
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  17. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Not much, I got one couch, one recliner and someone would have to sleep on the floor.
  18. 14thDoctor

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    DIBS ON BATHTUB
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    Le fuck
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    Alternatively, as so often happens these days, CNN ran with story without fact checking it because they wanted to have a scoop. Then they decided to fact check and realized they’d been had.
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    Murad Gazdiev is a Russia Today journo.

    Totally unbiased, I'm sure.
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  23. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    More proof that the MSM and CNN in particular are useless, untrustworthy partisan hacks.
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  24. Tuckerfan

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    Every one in the news, MSM or not does it.
  25. matthunter

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    FOX doesn't, but only because they skip the whole "sources" thing and just make shit up.
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  26. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    This coming from the self professed history expert who refuses to explore history he thinks will make him feel bad?
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  27. Order2Chaos

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    :spock: Do they really though? No question everything they present is biased all to hell and back, but how often do they just make up facts? Talking about the actual news shows and web news content, not their commentators here; they're irredeemable.
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  28. 14thDoctor

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    About that...
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/truck-convoy-police-solution-1.6337051

    :chris:
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  29. Tuckerfan

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    Fast forward a couple of years and those same people will be desperately trying to get into Canada to escape the civil war in America and wondering why the Mounties won't let them in.
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