The god of Liberty is a hungry god. Child Sacrifice Uvalde edition. [UNLV Update]

if only there was some way of measuring the effectiveness of restricting firearms...

“The NRA likes to say the 1994 federal Assault Weapons Ban didn’t work, but it did work. The data is clear: there were fewer mass shootings while the Assault Weapons Ban was in effect and significantly more after it expired,” Feinstein said.

Feinstein continued: “Gun massacres of six or more killed decreased by 37 percent for the decade the ban was active, then shot up 183 percent during the decade following its expiration. There’s no disputing those numbers.

Heard an interview with a Texas state politician, and according to him, there’s video of the shooter opening the classroom door and throwing things at the cops.

The more that comes out from the shooting, the more it sounds like The Onion is writing the news.

The Onion is funny

Classic correlation vs. causation, with some selective disregarding of inconvenient facts. General trends of crime and violence and the external factors that influence it over the same time period. The fact that most mass shootings are not committed with "assault weapons," as well as that broad interpretations OF "mass shooting. "

You may WANT to believe anything that sticks it to conservatives is settled and absolutely above question, but it is simply not so cut and dried.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/factchecking-bidens-claim-that-assault-weapons-ban-worked/

If there were copper-fastened evidence that some form of prohibition reduced school shootings, would you be for implementing it?

Unless your answer to this is "yes", arguing about the empirical evidence is pointless.

One column shows violent crime rates covering that same period.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1

Unless you're willing to consider evidence to the contrary, you can fuck off with your fantasy world hypotheticals.

it isn't that people want to believe hypotheticals. The problem is that neither side is willing to work with the other. I have attempted several times to "negotiate" with the "all guns all the time" crowd and cannot get past two or three discussions before they slink away. So, unless BOTH FUCKING SIDES decide to work together, both of you are wrong.

unless you're willing to provide evidence to that contrary, you can fuck right off with your fantasy world hypotheticals. <3

I think it would be bone-headed not to consider the empirical evidence, whatever it says.

Now, answer the question.

another curated perception

Dude...after reading your posts I take nothing of what you say seriously and have even less respect for you. This post is no different.

This is why people like you must be put to death. I'm beginning to think for the good of humanity, some types of people just must die.

I give you government data, you reply with fucking editorials full of "suggests." Just admit you don't care if it would be effective, and the fact it would piss off people you dislike is enough reason to support it.

and, oh look! another!

you gave government data and pointed out that it was non specific

although the correlation (which isn't the gotcha you're hoping for) is indeed notable for the years in question. If anything, it supports what I posted full of "suggests" from the WaPo fact checker (who's credentials are available on the page)

Coward.

Been on this merry-go-round before.
http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3414866/
http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3414875/

UA has never been about evidence or logic.
They're meaningless Cargo Cult incantations to him.
He's just here to troll because his existence is hollow.
Everyone would do well to ignore him.

If WF did not fluff UA for @Jenee she would have to suck a lot more.

IKR?

like, he disagrees with the conclusions: research increasingly supports the idea that restrictions on LCMs were effective in reducing the death toll when the law was in effect.

Moreover, recent research also supports the contention that mass shootings have increased since the law expired. What once was a hunch, unsupported by rigorous research, has now been largely confirmed. Biden did not say that, but it helps bolster the case that the law was more effective than originally understood.


and then posts evidence that supports those causal links.


if his school bus were any shorter, it'd have been a yellow roller skate

Nope, it's not ironic.

1) he's funny.

2) he's got more brains than your entire genetic line.

I realize that 2 isn't MUCH of a compliment, but still.

That no one in Cleveland was harmed?

School board votes to delay the first day of school in order to find another building for the students and asks Abbott to raise the age one can buy an assault rifle to 21. https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/l...exas/273-3583c605-6460-4d22-b620-69d565fa161a

Families are suing for $27 billion.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/202...t-announced-for-uvalde-victims-and-survivors/

Going after the manufacturer is idiotic. We don't go after auto manufacturers when their products are used to commit crimes.

"Baaaaahhht guns are made to killll people REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!111 " This was not the intended use for that weapon and you all fucking know it. If you walk into a gun store and ask for maximum child-stopping firepower, you will not be making a purchase that day. If you email the manufacturer to spec out optimal classroom-sweeping stock ergonomics or the best optics for small bipedal game, you will likely get a visit from some nice gentlemen with badges. It is not the manufacturer's fault when you intentionally misuse their products. If anyone other than the shooter is to blame for his actions, it is whatever useless shitbag wastes of oxygen failed to raise him right. But you won't go after the parents, will you? Because you see yourselves in them. There's the faintest hint of you being held accountable for your delinquent crotch goblins one day. Can't have that. Let's pretend we can take all the problems society ignores, all the negligent single parents and the permissive, forgiving treatment perpetrators of "minor" crimes commit on their journey of escalation, tie those problems to a crate of guns and throw it overboard like an anchor.

I can see going after the specific enforcement agencies involved, but the local PD would presumably be funded by local taxpayers, who would also have been paying for any sort of insurance carried for this sort of thing. I'm not sure where you find a "win" in all that.

You're such a fucking joke.

"This was not the intended use for that weapon and you all fucking know it."

What do you think those weapons are made for? Shooting tin cans for fun? Deer hunting?

30-50 feral capitol hill cops?

Obviously not for shooting children. Probably came with a warning label and everything.

do not use on targets under reproductive age?