The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is a hero

Discuss.

Indeed.

No, in this day and age, it makes him a hero.

Look at that. This cunt gets model shoots.

Sorry. I just wanna puke.

Ad hominem. Fuck off.

It's not "interesting." I did not question your character. I talked issues.

Again fuck off.

How so, troll interloper that nobody likes?

I was just wondering who was going to start stirring the pot next around here.

When you hold a judge up for just doing his job you invite discussion on your obvious bias and attempt to do some sort of right wing victory dance in front of everyone. So maybe the person who opened up this discussion should check his bias before bitching about other people responding to it. Don't make it part of the discussion and then you can bitch when people bring it in.

As for the trial the judge is doing his job, and kyle gets his chance to defend his actions which do seem to be in self defense despite the media clearly making it seem like he was not fleeing like a punk brat when people chased him down. The people chasing him down had no business doing so when he left a piss trail across the parking lot while not shooting. They terrified the punk brat and should have let it be when he ran. Instead they ran after him like a violent mob and he shot the ones attacking him.

At that point I have no problem with the kid opening fire when running away did not work. I do not expect him to have surrendered to any of the violent mob chasing him. I will say had his mother not been such an overwhelming POS proud boy cum dumpster she might have not driven him into trouble. He certainly deserves time for possession of the firearm and bringing one into a dangerous situation. I would have also charged him with rioting because that is what he was doing. However, it was self defense and our world is rid of a couple of violent assholes on the left.

Nobody likes you either, you know. You're merely tolerated.

Are there people here who aren't just merely tolerated? I thought that was kind of the whole point of this place?

I dunno, the idea that you can't use the term "victims" to refer to people that were shot to death by the accused makes me feel like there's some bias, even if it's just towards defendants in general.

I also question the idea that asking the accused about their refusal to talk is beyond the pale because it's a constitutional right, while asking a victim about their civil suit is okay despite that being a constitutional right as well.

Okay, alleged newbie with 235 posts.

I am on the fence on this one in this case. The people chasing kyle down were violent rioters. They were doing the gang war thing. His defense is based on the reality they were violent thugs chasing him down to do harm to him. None of those guys he shot were peaceful protestors. They were not random people in the street protesting. They were the people who were chasing him down to do harm to him. Call them casualties if you want, but they were not victims.

Yes, I am going to blame the left for being a violent mob when I can clearly see them chasing someone down to kill him. The police were a violent gang when they chased down peaceful BLM members. The proud boys and right wing are a violent mob when they come armed and looking for a fight to portland, kenosha, and the capitol. In kenosha that night the left had a violent mob looking to get into a death brawl with the proud boys. Yes, this is why some of the right wing talking points about Antifa are absolutely true. There is a huge bunch of them who are violent gang members who come to these events to get into a gang war and riot.

One of the people Rittenhouse shot was apparently a medic who'd volunteered as a medic at previous protests. I trust that guy to have been there that night with peaceful intent a hell of a lot more than I trust the minor with the illegally purchased gun who crossed state lines in the hopes of protecting strangers businesses getting a chance to shoot some hippies.

Rittenhouse did the exact thing that Marso was jerking off fantasizing about in that old "Occupy planning a Day of Rage" thread.

I've never seen a judge/lawyer (let alone prosecutor) pissing match in open court, although I'm sure things can get pretty salty in chambers. Any possible appeal from the prosecution, assuming as seems likely that Rittenhouse walks, won't be decided based on the judge's atttitude. It'll be decided on the basis of appellate court's review of the record. Too bad they don't allow in courtrooms, though.

Why was he chasing down an armed kid trying to run away? Especially when there is a guy in need of medical attention? That is violence. He was chasing the kid down to harm him. You are in the middle of a riot, you have a scared kid with a mob chasing him to kill him, and the kid has already shot one person in defense. You are not the police, and you are not detaining anyone. You have no business getting into hand to hand combat with an armed scared kid.

His motives were not with peace and saving lives. He deserved to be shot for participating in gang violence by trying to beat up an armed child running for his life. You do not go chasing down the fleeing person even if he is a Nazi sympathizer like kyle. It was self defense. Kyle did not shoot anyone but the people chasing him, and that does say something about his claims of self defense.

I don't think an innocent verdict will be able to be appealed, but if the judge conducted the trial incorrectly with bias towards the defendant then I think the judge should be tossed from the bench. I do not know if that is possible, but I think some post trial discipline would be a lovely way to deal with biased judges who are more interested in party affiliation and fame than being a judge.

Not illegally purchased.

And, since compliance with gun laws seems to influence your opinions: Grosskreutz was carrying a gun unlawfully. And he testified that he pointed it at KR before he was shot.

I don't get this "crossing state lines" talking point. Is someone trying to suggest a federal law has been broken? And are they not aware that Antioch, Illinois (where KR lived) and Kenosha, Wisconsin are all of about 8 miles apart, and that Kenosha is the nearest big town to Antioch?

Some people are trying to make it seem that illegally possessing a gun, which kyle was also, makes the self defense attempt wrong. I do not believe that is the case, it just means kyle was guilty of the possession crime. That moves into the second point that crossing the border actually matters in the case of possession. If I legally buy some weed in colorado as soon as I cross the border in possession of it I have broken the law of that state if the state I enter bans it. Kyle was not legally allowed to own a gun in wisconsin, and therefor when he was in possession of it in wisconsin he committed a crime within that state. So yes 8 miles matters in the case of the law.

Crossing borders matters. You are certainly a hypocritical asshole as you would be the first rule of law idiot to claim it matters if it were applied to a POC or involved someone crossing the border of mexico into the US. Are we to believe you would say a mexican citizen living in san diego does not matter because that is a big city next to mexico?

What a heap of bullshit you spew.

If the judge is angling for a mistrial he's a hero. But if not, he's clearly colluding to let a premeditated killer walk free.

you misspelled "lunatic"

No, he spelled his name right when he logged in.

What Kyle has done does not seem to be premeditation. There does not seem to have been a plan to kill these people. If he shot them right away and did not run away I might consider it, but once he ran away it is obvious the plan was not to kill, or at least he was not following any plan.

Yes, I have seen the CVS video and that is a trash talking dumbass teen that when he was in an actual position to start shooting those people with his gun chose retreat rather than shooting as his first action. Yes, he acted like a dumb tough guy who says he would kill people and then clearly had to be run down to actually do it.

I get he is fake crying on the stand and he is still a punk kid.

I'm sorry. But I oppose the description of Rittenhouse as a "scared kid" after he packed an AR-15 into a car and had his Mom drive him 45 minutes across 3 counties and a state line into an area of racial turmoil. Claiming that he "didn't want any trouble" isn't going to cut it. The people who didn't want any trouble stayed home that night.

Did you not see the medic's testimony that he believed KR to be an active shooter? How is that description inaccurate? What do conservatives say all the time about active shooters and "good guys with guns?"

Mods, please move all the Rittenhouse junk to this thread.