The Orville [SPOILERS WITHIN]

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  1. Nova

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    Each episode is better than the last.

    This was basically a pure old school trek episode, with some forced humor (though much less than usual) thrown in. Give Gen Coon an hour with it and it would have been near perfect.

    Blow the slime guy out an airlock and forget the word "dick" and you're right there Seth, crazy as it sounds to me to say so.

    (Also, the casting here was like a warm blanket - absolutely comfortable for the feel they were going for)
  2. Nova

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    and yes, he's recycling tropes HARD but if you want a show to feel like Old School Trek - that's what you're gonna get.
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  3. Kommander

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    Yeah, it's been done, as has the "aliens have customs that we humans find backward" plot, the "humans kidnapped and put in an alien zoo" plot, and the "asshole aliens try to steal the McGuffin Device" plot. That's kind of how parodies/homages work; they're derivative.
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    I have to say that I’m really liking this show. I know it’s tropey and cliched, but I find myself enjoying it nonetheless. It doesn’t have to run for 7 -10 seasons, but maybe 4-5 is enough. I really miss thought provoking TV.
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    I enjoyed Ep 4. It did remind me of a ST:TNG episode, but without the 20-minute long sermon from Picard on the dangers of violating the Prime Directive.

    Captain Mercer: This thing has a sunroof? Open that bitch up! :wub:
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    Meh. I'm still watching, but the mixture of dumb humour and SF plots breaks down to me when the plots are dumb. In this case, there was no reason to get into any conflict with the local government in order to save the bioship; on the other hand, if they don't have a Prime Directive, there was every reason to remove that government regardless of any trouble saving the ship. This way, the conflict just didn't make sense. Which would be fine if it was a laugh a minute. But it so was not.
  7. Dayton Kitchens

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    Anyone notice how when what's her name, heavy gravity planet woman was shot in the chest, she rolled down the hill, and rolled, and rolled, and rolled.

    I think they were actually parodying those scenes from countless movies where someone is shot or hit by something and they seem to roll forever for no obvious reason.
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    Liam goddamned Neeson was in this episode and none of you fucksticks bothered to mention it? Yeah, the episode's got its faults, but it has Liam goddamned Neeson in it!
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  9. K.

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    Yes, I noticed that. Does anyone have any idea why he was in this? For a comparatively minor, non-recurring role?
  10. Nova

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    my previous praise aside - the basic plot was a straight rip of "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky"

    I don't necessarily dispute K.'s identification of plot holes, but until they try to be a serious show, I'm not gonna be that worried about them.
  11. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    to be honest, I just assumed he was a very similar character actor - it never occurred to me it might be him.
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  12. tafkats

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    I'm also enjoying it far more than I expected to. The mix of futuristic setting and early 21st-century gags and colloquialisms isn't as jarring once you get used to it and accept the show for what it is ... more-or-less mindless fun, just a little bit of brain candy for sci-fi nerds.
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  13. tafkats

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    I started noticing around Episode 3 that something about Alara's prosthetics and makeup looks noticeably artificial, more so than most of the other aliens, with the exception of Slime Guy. (And also doesn't do Halston Sage, who is really very pretty, any favors...)
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

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    I thought that was Neeson but I couldn't believe it at that time. Is he some kind of buddy with MacFarland or a fan of space opera?
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  15. Sean the Puritan

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    This is the best Star Trek series of the last 25 years!
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    I liked episode four. Some of the humor is not cutting edge, but it is a new show. First season of most shows is a bit clunky. I think the series will shine if McFarlane starts making his own tropes. But that does take time to establish, and I am not bored to tears watching it.
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  18. Minsc&Boo

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    Dexter, Game of thrones and nbsg are the exception.
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    this was as TNG as it gets...
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    Aurora how are austrian serial killers named? I think you might be one? Is trump one?
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    Have you not seen "A Million Ways to Die in the West"? MacFarlane's Comedy/Western film from a couple years back? Neeson starred as the bad guy--Clench Leatherwood, IIRC.

    Next week's guest star, Charlize Theron, also starred in that film, as the leading lady/love interest.

    MacFarlane is a Hollywood Insider. He's got dozens of famous friends. I expect we'll see a bunch of them in cameos on the show.
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  22. Diacanu

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    He did a western holo-program as a nod to that flick, I wonder if he'll sneak Ted in there somehow.
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    Game of thrones holoprogram ted as tyrion?
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  24. Dayton Kitchens

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    I missed seeing that one. Heard of it though.
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    So they must have a universal translator they haven't shown us yet because how else would you speak to the people in the space ark? And how would they understand you?

    Nice that the bad guy didn't understand what Grayson was saying exactly because he doesn't understand Earth culture but he knew she was mocking him.

    It was a big risk to inject her though. Would have been hilarious had it given her super strength.

    And the way they ended the episode. "We'll just call up the Union and they'll retrain you to fly your ship" and episode was done. Even the bad guy didn't get dealt with on screen though you do see the hint of a smile when the sun roof is opening up.

    One thing I thought could have been better is Grayson and Kitan when the truck tried to run them over. On this show we see that the crew is always carrying weapons while off the ship. They should have drawn those weapons as soon as the truck came rushing up on them. Also we don't see the main bad guy really reacting to Grayson as an alien which to him she is one.

    A good episode overall.
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    Oh and Rocky Road. What an interesting relationship to watch. :lol:
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    Par for the course in Trek.
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    Is it bad that I like this show better than the Actual Star Trek show currently on?
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  29. Dayton Kitchens

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    Judging by what I've seen its pretty reasonable.
  30. Diacanu

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    I like 'em both, so it feels like the good old days of the mid-90's when we had TNG and DS9 on at the same time.
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