The People Finding Out That Theirs Were the Faces to be Eaten Thread

Remember when I used to say the US was headed for civil war and everyone just laughed? Yeah, about that . . .

The California wildfires happened this year. Not last year or the year before. We have recent evidence of the conservative media infrastructure spending the better part of 3 weeks trashing Gavin Newsom, LA elected officials, and any Democrats remotely associated with California.

Now we have a disaster that is greater in terms of lives lost, and the response so far is Greg Abbott is a great guy and has a good relationship with Trump. And that’s on CNN. Absolutely ridiculous.

I wonder how bad things are right now in the "equally disastrous" world you foretold if Trump didn't win in 2016?

IF you will recall, I didn't want Trump to win then either. But Hillary was as corrupt as they come and while a government under her might have been competent, it would also have been for sale.

Even spotting you that Hillary was corrupt for discussion's sake, there would have been zero chance that Hillary would have even attempted some of the stuff that Trump has now made par for the course. If for no reason other than she would not have a complacent SCOTUS, a mostly feckless opposition party, and in addition to the right wing news media pointing out every non-controversy as if it were the second coming of Watergate, the mainstream media would be piling on where it could as well.

A quick list of things that Trump has done that I don't think Hillary would have attempted, or that she almost certainly would have been checked on if she tried:
1. Set up a couple forms of cryptocurrency in his and his spouse's name's.
2. Work hand-in-hand with a billionaire donor who has billions in government contracts and appoint him to a quasi-position in government where he and his employees have basically unfettered access to governmental data
3. Have his company work out billions in deals with foreign governments, including accepting a luxury jet from Qatar, in open violation of the emoulements clause
4. Host events at properties he owns and invite people to have memberships in his clubs.
5. Filing frivolous suits against media companies who are seeking mergers and having the media companies legitimately contemplate settling in the multimillion dollar range to avoid incurring his wrath and the possible blocking of those mergers
6. Running roughshod over the notion that the DOJ is supposed to be independent of the White House

ETA: How could I forget to list the thing that got him convicted of 34 felonies: falsifying business records to cover up that he repaid his fixer for paying off a porn star who claimed she slept with him.

You think the way elected officials handled that crisis was good?

Not even in the same ball park. Speaking of ridiculous...

Keep staying classy.

And you’ll recall also that many Republican politicians either didn’t want federal funds to go to California or they wanted right wing stipulations and restrictions placed on the money. I can tell you the exact number of Republican politicians who will demand the same for this Texas disaster: 0.

My heart goes out to the victims, but the survivors did get what they voted for.

There is in fact a much bigger wildfire occurring in California right now. But Texas is once again hogging the media spotlight because it continues to vote against its own interests.

Edit to add: and it's been decimating a national park, which falls under Trump's responsibility. Maybe he should have spent more time sweeping the forest and less time golfing.

but her emails...

I think it would be kinda hot if Hillary Clinton had paid off a porn star she fucked. The rest of that stuff, not so much.

At first, I was going to reply, "Depends on the porn star."

But to change things so it might be in the ballpark of hot, let's say she was spending money to cover up Chelsea's fucking a porn star.

Nah, regardless of the porn star, it would be hot as a big "fuck you" to Bill's infidelity.

'corrupt as they come' jeez man either get back on or stop your meds.

Leopards: Omnomnomnom!!

https://crooksandliars.com/2025/07/maga-dad-denied-entry-us-after-trip-canada

Dude is a green card holder and long-term US resident from Canada. After taking a trip back there to see relatives, he was denied re-entry to the US due to a couple of weed convictions and driving on a suspended licence, all dating back to 2004-2007.

Denied federal flood relief, a Maryland town is left on its own
The residents of Westernport, Maryland, overwhelmingly voted for Trump. But after FEMA denied its aid request, the town feels like the president has turned his back on them.

I'm still inclined towards the theory that they long had an open relationship, and the big issue was Bill bringing scandal on by not ensuring things stayed private.

Not that it makes his treatment of Lewinsky any better.

as compared to the one you have now?

As compared to basically all of them. Even the best we've ever had were ultimately caught up in a system ruled by outside money.

Yeah, Depends on Hillary and Bill too probably.

yeah, there's a certain level of white collar crime shenanigans to be expected as a feature same as there's all the dirty little intrigues in the background of the world stage.
Those don't really affect us little people.

This is some Snidely Whiplash level shit...

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lvlfkds4g22t

https://www.khou.com/article/news/l...-ice/285-0d9ef249-0b88-4534-86eb-b3f301560da1

https://x.com/jessespafford/status/1961530897473442270?s=46&t=iYW3foyqIA6Tn8VWwn3nwQ

“…as soon as I started paying attention….”

You see this foolishness from the “moderate” or “corporatist” Republicans. Bad things are happening now because Biden/Harris/the left/etc were so objectionable during the last election.

From a lot of "centrist" Dems too, particularly those who make their scratch getting paid to tell Dems why they're wrong, actually.