HBOMax is doing a Pennywise prequel series. I said when the "IT" movies came out, there's enough material in the book for Pennywise prequels. Well, they're doing it. https://www.darkhorizons.com/hbo-max-plans-it-prequel-series/
I hope they do it justice and it's not just looked at as another franchise to squeeze every last drop of cash out of.
They could do more than just It. They're are other Stephen King books that take place in and around Derry. Insomnia, Bag of Bones, and Dreamcatcher all do, for instance. And Dreamcatcher is begging for a better adaptation than what it got.
The Tommyknockers also mentions Pennywise, someone makes a run to Derry to pick up some supplies or something and they think they see a clown in a sewer. It also alludes Pennywise may still be alive, It ended in 1985 The Tommyknockers takes place in 1987.
Frick I haven't read The Tommyknockers since I was in secondary school the main thing I remember was it was all over the place, it was a bit like there was a good story fighting for it's life to be told. But tbf I wasn't a super strong reader in my teens so I was probably missing bits. Or misunderstanding things.
Not really. Tommyknockers is average. It's really a pastiche of greatest hits for King. Small town descending into anarchy. Abusive struggling alcoholic writer protagonist. Otherworldly force exerting influence on a town. Set in Maine. Bittersweet ending. Even a Pennywise cameo. The story was told better in books like Needful Things or Salem's Lot.
Ah, well, that's where the difference between AI and humanity is so evident. King truly did create a new, different story from that.
Newest trailer dropped. Looks like it will also have Sargeant Fuller, from when William Hanlon in was stationed at the Army base in Derry. But Fuller will be an army base commander. The Shawshank book did mention Derry. And also has the car from the Bradley gang (Mafia) when the Derry citizens ambushed the gang when they entered Derry. Possibly changing the Kitchner Ironworks explosion to a school bus crash. Also looks like the Black Spot fire will also be included.
Looks like it will have the fire at the Black Spot, where William Hanlon was at. In the book the fire was started by members of The Derry Knights of Decency. In the series, local rednecks? And the Army is changed to William Being in the Air Force.
Is it the same actor playing PW as the last two films? The dude with the wonky eyes, I thought he did a good job of PW in the last 2 movies. The aesthetic in trailer looks good @ed629 my fingers and toes are officially crossed at this point that its not like all the other classic IPs that just get turned into soulless money grabs.
It is the same actor, Bill Skarsgård. With the original book primarily being set in two periods, and the with It: Part 1 and 2 covering most of the time when they are adults. There's still a lot from the book that can be told in the 1950's, and the time leading up to that. There's enough to cover several episodes, even whole seasons for to each season to take place in the mid 1930's and the late 1900's. Each of those can be expanded on from what was written in the novel.
Also did i read somewhere a while back that the siblings that did the last two films where involved in this one too, or am I misremembering because if they are that would give me more confidence in the project.
Finally getting around to watch the first two episodes. Less than ten minutes into the first one. "Well. That was graphic." Did not expect that. I'm hooked.
I read somewhere that there is a three-season plan for the show. The current season is set in 1962. The next season will hop back 27 years to 1935 and talk about the gang that got killed (an ep in the current season has a car that apparently belonged to that gang getting unearthed.) And then the next season if it happens would go back to 1908 and talk about the events from that year.
That is current plan, by Muschietti. He's confirmed that in an interview. Part of it would include the the House on Neibolt Street became what it is, along with other aspects. The Bradley Gang is already a part of the current season.
Slightly, when Matt Clement is seen in the movie at the theater, when he's looking down at the giant bat baby, you can see a hint of the clown makeup on his face.
So yeah, the scene where the mom gives birth to the giant bat baby. What was your take on that? Watching it I was thinking "Well that's kind of graphic. Didn't expect that. Huh... She's shaved." What I'm liking. The Air Force is aware of something in Derry, but don't know what it is. Dick Halloran from the Shining is in this, he also appeared in the novel as a friend of Will Hanlon at the Army Base. Leroy Hanlon was chosen since he doesn't feel fear due to a brain injury. It facing a pers on who also doesn't have any fear was in the novel as Patrick Hockstetter. The inclusion of Juniper Hill, which also had appeared in other novels. Teddy Uris would have been Stan's uncle, interested to see if Don (Teddy's) brother becomes a Rabbi and Stan's father. And is aware that something is happening in Derry. Sargent Fuller from the novel and an antagonist of William has become Major Fuller Butch Bowers (another antagonist and farmer in the novel) from the movie had followed Chief Clint Bowers. Veronica Grogan is a major character, in the novel she was a very minor character, only mentioned as a victim of It. Her father Hank is a new character. I'm hoping Mr. Keene makes an appearance. In the novel he was a smaller supporting character, in the novel he was trying to help Eddie, very different from the movie. There's also a mention of a Kersh, could be a name of a victim later on that It uses. This series also makes it more apparent that the town of Derry is under the influence of It. When the one kid is chased and attacked by the other kids, it's ignored by the adults that live there or dismissed.
Ok, I realized that Mr. Keene did make an appearance, when Charlotte Hanlon goes to town to pick up the roast, she walks past a young Mr. Keene smoking outside the drugstore.
Episode 3 still hit well. More background on a few characters, Rose (owner of Second Hand Rose) and General Shaw. They met as kids in Derry, fifty years after he moved away he returns to head the project to investigate the fear caused by Pennywise. Without saying it, General Shaw returning and a few lines explains how the Air Force Base in Derry can be investigating the phenomena around Pennywise without it spreading. Like the Losers from the movies, Shaw only remembers what happened in Derry fifty years earlier once he returns. If the base is closed down at the end of the season, then anyone that was stationed there or visited it wouldn't remember what happened there. Dick Halloran can sense Pennywise and vice versa. The current Losers are investigating Pennywise as well, trying to find out what happened to Matty. The manage to take photos of Pennywise in various forms. I'm thinking that they are the only ones that can see him in the photos though
Episode 4 was another good addition, more background into how the Shokopiwah and It\Pennywise are intertwined with each other. The photos that the Loser gang took photos of show that most of the apparitions that Pennywise manifests as are mental images that Pennywise puts into their minds. When showing the photos to Chief Bowers and other officers, they don't see the manifestions in the photos except for one of Pennywise as the clown form. Leroy and Will go fishing, will is attacked by Pennywise when Leroy goes to get another fishing lure from the car. Will initially sees Pennywise as a Koi\Giant Goldfish which is what Eddie saw in the barrens in the novel. Pennywise takes the form of a burned Leroy and pulls Will underwater telling him he will die in a fire. Later, Will wakes from a nightmare of that encounter and looking out from a telescope sees Pennywise in his clown form. Interestingly both times, Leroy sees a red balloon floating near by. Back at school, after watching a educational film about Leucochloridium Paradoxum, Marge and the Patty Cakes try to pull a cruel joke on Lilly. During the educational film Marge was freaked out by the Leucochloridium Paradoxum affecting snail. When she tries to apologize and warn Lilly about the joke, Pennywise intervenes and causes Marge to hallucinate that her eyes bug out the same way the Leucochloridium Paradoxum affects snails. Mortified Marge tuns out of the restroom that are in. She runs to the woodshop and tries to remove them from here eyes, first with a chisel that she chips away at her eye with which fails. She then uses a band saw to cut off her bulging eyes. Lilly tries to stop her, they fall to the floor and Marge picks up the chisel again. Trying to get the rest out of her eyes. Lilly trying to stop her grabs the chisel just as other students come into the the woodshop just in time to see Lilly holding the chisel. Marge is no longer hallucinating and has gouged out her right eye. The initial trailers and the mid season trailer both show Marge with an eye patch. Dick Holloran is called to extract information from Taniel, one of the members from the Shokopiwah tribe. We see that the Shokopiwah have a legend of Pennywise arriving and that for a while Pennywise hunted them for food, until they made a dagger from the obsidian formed when Pennywise crashed and created the crater that he losers killed him in. With the dagger they were able to contain him until settlers arrived and ignored the warnings to stay out of the forest. Pennywise fed on them becoming more powerful. The Shokopiwah then using 13 fragments from the crater, created 13 pillars to contain Pennywise to the woods. Later at the town of Derry developed and grew inside the confines of the pillars.
I forgot to mention this. Dick Holloran and his buddies start setting up and clearing out the Quonset Hut for the Black Spot. In the novel the have a small kitchen and a piano, the kitchen is suggested by Dick and a spinet piano is seen. I'm also thinking that most if not all of the kids are going to end up dead. Veronica Grogan is a victim in the novel, and unless they moved out of Derry there isn't any link or mention to them being in Derry in Part 1 or 2. When Taniel is relaying to Dick the legend of Pennywise which they call Galoo. Taniel mentions that the pillars lead to the House on Neibolt Street.
I'd have expected that Will and Ronnie would get married and have Mike before dying in a fire and getting subsequently raised by Grandpa Leroy. There are references to a turtle in the series, but I don't remember anything in the 90s miniseries or the recent movies. What's that about?
In the novel, Maturin the Turtle vomited out our Universe when he had a stomach ache. This allowed It to leave the macroverse and into the story universe where it exists. The turtle rarely comes out from its shell. Maturin rarely involves himself in any matters within the universe and the macroverse (where It originally came from). And when he does so, offers advice and not much more. Having a turtle appear in the movies and the series are indicators that in them Maturin tries to guide and protect the protagonists. As when Matt gave Lilly the turtle charm that she put on her bracelet and protected her at the theater. Maturin is also mentioned in the Dark Tower series. There he is a bit more prominent and one of the Twelve Guardians of the Beams and The Dark Tower which is the center of the six Beams, each has one Guardian at each end. As for Ingrid, she could most likely be Mrs. Kersh from Chapter 2. She is thought to be Pennywise's daughter in the series. She also appears in photographs with Bob Gray in Chapter 2, and is probably the female clown seen at the start of episode 3. My thought is that she isn't his literal daughter, but an orphan that Pennywise came across, but like Leroy Hanlon, she doesn't feel fear. He would have met her prior to 1908, as seen in the daguerreotype photos. And she would have been the first person that he met that didn't fear him. Instead of killing her anyway, he became interested in her and uses her to target certain individuals through the years. She accepted him as a surrogate father and he treats her as a familiar and has the ability to slow her aging and has kept her alive for decades.
