2020 Presidential Primaries

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    Give her a break. She's done more than I have. And probably more than a number of others here.
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    Everyone's done more than you have
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  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    The average American lifespan was about that as well. :shrug:
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  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    It was the snotty tone of voice more than anything else.
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  6. Dayton Kitchens

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    Actually that is misleading. People love to quote the figures about "average lifespan" and talk about how it has changed over the centuries.

    In reality, the age that most people live to once they survive infancy hasn't changed all that much over the last few thousand years. "Average" life expectancy back when it was something like 40 years old was driven down by so many infants who died. But once people gotten clear of childhood illnesses, the lifespans beyond that haven't been that different.

    This is also a big reason why couples had such large families. They anticipated losing several children at a young age.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Another factor was the number of women who died in childbirth. Visit some 18th-19th century cemetery and you'll find the "patriarch" surrounded by the three wives who died young and a slew of infants.

    Not that women could run for office anyway, but there's no reason why a healthy 70-something can't run for President today. Take a look at some of the dinosaurs creaking around in Congress. Better yet, take a look at some of the octogenarians, nonagenarians, and even centenarians who are still active in the Real World.

    Unlike Der Drumpfenfuhrer, neither Sanders nor Warren would have any qualms about releasing their medical records.
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    Have they done so?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Isn't that traditionally done after the primaries?
  11. Dayton Kitchens

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    I don't recall. I know there is nothing official about it.
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    Jesus Christ.

    Earth to Biden aides: You can't "scale back" the fucking presidency.

    Well, you can. But it's what Trump is doing right now, and it's not exactly a good idea.
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  13. tafkats

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    Age aside, successful nominees are nearly always new -- in the sense of not having been involved in a previous presidential election cycle. It didn't used to be this way, but now it seems like you basically have one shot, and if you don't succeed in grabbing that moment, it's not gonna come again.

    So Beto in his 50s several years from now would be "old news," while Warren at 70 this year is exciting and new.
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    That's a fancy way of saying that he prefers staying where it's safe. Good luck winning with that strategy, not that he ever really had a chance to begin with.
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    god what a fucking pathetic peanut gallery of FAIL & FUBAR. :lol: And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we now have to face the reality of living in a world with Hickenlooper.:no:
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    Compared to the republican clown car and their king trump, it is a huge step up.

    This whole whining about there being a ton of people in the dem campaign and that they are so horrible is clearly an attempt to pretend the abomination that was the 2016 republican primary field was not the worst most unqualified people ever to hold a political stage in america. Puhlease, like there is even a comparison with the dems shows you nurse needs to up the dosage.
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    The only problem I have with running a woman is the sexism in the red states. When we look at how the republican majority in midwest and southern states with low population is 0pposed to women leading and even having sovereignity over their bodies and existence, there will be a statistical problem for a woman to take some of those states away from trump. You also add in that these states share that cultural sexism with the democrat sectors also and you are encouraging a trump win along the same lines as before. This may not effect some states with a decent urban and suburban population who are not as mired in religious ignorance and ideas that women are the evil that brings men down because they got him tossed out of the garden, but it is an uphill battle in states where even the women subjugate their opinions and control to men.

    We all know, without the name hillary for trump to attack he is going to be talking abouit them being unhinged emotional balls of blood spouting from their nose. Because he is such a stable genius.
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    The states you're talking about are generally either:

    (a) not nearly as conservative as people who don't live there like to imagine, or

    (b) not voting for any Democrat, period.
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    That does not totally apply. Lots of the states have been shifting to a more equal number of votes between the two parties. There are many that are becoming purple. However, a shift in some form of statewide prejudice could drive down dem votes or drive up republican voters. Things like gender, skin color, sexual orientation, or religion could make red voters more numerous. Trump win a number of battleground states. These are states where you have a higher percentage of conservative women who would vote against a woman for being female, and men who feel women cannot lead or are not as good at leading as a man.

    You are not going to get the bhard core dems or republicans to shift sides, but it is often the middle ground people who make or break an election. If that group of people still carries old school sexism and an idea that a woman would be in a weaker position to deal with people like the middle east, Putin, or NK because they would not respect a female like they would respect our idiot in chief, then they might vote for him again. It is something the dems had better focus on considering they have two very strong candidates in their primary groups.
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    Yes there are mentally healthy & vibrant 70 year old folks fully capable of being president. If they have "senior moments" they have a staff of handlers.
    What I do not like is mentally unhealthy 80+ year old judges making jaw dropping god-awful decisions that often put the public in danger. We hear about these fuckers all the time all across the nation at various levels - sorry but they need age limits and/or impartial & professional mental ability evaluations.
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    I'm sure you are correct. "capable" But the overall stresses of the presidency are almost beyond description.
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    people say that a lot, but damn if most of our former presidents (since I've been voting anyway) live long, healthy, productive lives after leaving the presidency, so it can't be that physically or mentally traumatizing.
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    Ever look at pictures of them when they first take office, the day they leave office, and then several years later? The effects of the stress are obvious as are the beneficial effects when that stress is removed.
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    George H.W. Bush died at age 94, 25 years after he was out of office.
    And at 94, cancer survivor Jimmy Carter's still doing carpentry for Habitat for Humanity.
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    While Dick Clark and Patrick Stewart both seem to be immune to such things, I suspect that if you take a picture of someone who is the average age of a US President ~50 - 60 years old, and compare to a picture of them four years later, you'll see similar effects of aging.
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    That is who took my porn of the donkey from MLP getting it on with ...........

    I mean my friend's MLP porn of the donkey and applejack doing strange things with a riding crop.
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    Once Dick Clark broke things got bad. It is good he went down quick.
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    I get that - but despite their looks their healthy lifespan seems to be on par with average men their age. Does the average man appear to age at the same rate? It would be interesting to do an apples-to-apples comparison that's for sure.
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