Anyone Think the term "Away Team" sounds stupid?

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    Ever since "Encounter at Farpoint" I've thought the term "Away Team" sounds horrendously stupid. Even if its accurate I think it sounds stupid much like Department of Homeland Security.

    I know the concept of the Away Team evolved from David Gerrold's idea of a "Contact Team" that he first proposed in depth in his book "The World of Star Trek" and was a major feature of his novel "The Galactic Whirlpool". In the novel, the Contact Team was led by Lt. Kevin Riley as in The World of Star Trek Gerrold suggested that the Contact Team should be led by a significant character but not one of the major ones.

    Me. I wonder why they didn't stick with "landing party" and be done with it?
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    Because you're a douche nozzle and should have been aborted pre-birth?
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    No. No one does.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    With TNG, GR was trying soooo hard to distance himself from TOS that he thought up different names for things. No big deal, AFAIC. Why does it bother you?
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    I can't quite put my finger of it though when I hear the term for some reason the word "Disney" flashes into my mind.
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    Warned.

    Media Central. You should know better. :brood:
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    Nobody thinks the term away team is stupid.
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    I do.
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    That’s because you hate Star Trek.
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    I like "away team" better than "landing party," which is what TOS used.
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    Star Trek didn't begin with Encounter At Farpoint
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    Why? I always liked "landing party" because I thought it sounded like it harkened back to the earlier pre transporter days when going to the surface of a planet (or to another ship or station) meant landing on it in a shuttlecraft. Helped give the show the authenticity of history.

    Wanting the Enterprise to "be a ship with a history " was once stated as one of Gene Roddenberry's goals in the original series. Something EVERY other incarnation of Star Trek has forgotten.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    "Landing party" does have a very nautical feel to it, but I think people nowadays would be less inclined to use such a term. I haven't taken a poll, but I suspect people would default to the words "group" or "team" for a collection of people organized to perform a particular task.
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    Not to mention that “landing party” isn’t really applicable if you’re exploring another ship, or are on a diplomatic mission somewhere. “Away team” is a generic enough description that it covers any reason why someone might be away from the ship on official business.
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    It didn't particularly bother me. It seemed in line with the overall pussification of Trek that TNG was. Endless meetings, a counselor, captain who was a CBPP, etc. I was rooting for the Borg.
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    Why not? As stated I'm sure that originally they had to "land" on other ships and space stations as well as planets.
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    Yeah but the Borg were pussified even worse at various points.

    Then again EVERY adversary race or power in Star Trek is inevitably pussified.
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    Because TNG was the first Trek I ever watched and I started watching it very young, I never thought twice about "away team" ... but I can definitely see how it could sound silly. You could argue that there's something sort of childlike about the grammatical construction.
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    The last US Navy manual covering landing parties was issued in 1960 and revised in 1962 and 1965, so I'm guessing that they call them something else now (assuming the doctrine still even exists).

    I have no problem with either term when it comes to Trek, though "away team" does scream 1980s corporate jargon to me. :lol:
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    I liked David Gerrold's idea in The World of Star Trek where he suggested the "Contact Team" be led by a secondary, recurring character and not one of the main ones necessarily. Fully one quarter of Gerrold's book was about the "unfulfilled potential" of Star Trek and he had a whole host of good ideas. Including having starship combat scenes where the crew wasn't flying out of their seats and consoles didn't spark and blow up. He said "Look! Someone in the 23rd century invented fuses!"

    Though to be fair, if Star Trek was made "more realistic" as Gerrold seemed to be hoping for it might've been a much duller series.
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    That’s nice gov’nor! In the Queen’s English Away Team refers to a group of people who go off to explore. I can understand how you poorly educated yanks may have difficulty understanding that, much the same as you think minding the gap is about a store at the mall.
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    Because the term "docking" is generally used for when ships join up, not landing.
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    I prefer the term raiding squad, personally.
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    That's very funny. Kudos.

    *I'm aware of "minding the gap". But I thought for the English it was a dental reference, no? ;)
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    if they're going to another ship or station, than it would be properly called a "boarding party".
    as for hearkening back, well, that's called obsolescence. As is shown, having to hair split based on where and what they're going to would be confusing to have to script... easier to have a catch all term.
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    Yes, jarred me the first time I heard it and ALWAYS thought it was stupid. Sadly, it's percolated through the sci-fi lexicon and isn't just a trek-ism anymore.

    Landing party or boarding party. Covers 97% of situations.
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    You're saying experienced, professional writers couldn't handle differentiating between a "landing party" and a "boarding party"?

    No wonder the writing for Star Trek has sucked for so many years.
  30. Forbin

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    Landing party preference here, too. Probably because it's what I grew up with. Away Team sounds like a little league event in another town.
    Shooter's corporate jargon analogy is apt too.
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