Are we still pretending the anti-abortion movement is about "life"?

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  1. Diacanu

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    Last I checked, no one was giving Andrea Yates the thumbs up and cheers.
    Maybe in some lame Christian propaganda a movie Dayton saw.
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    I am sure @Dayton3 and @Dinner both cheer honor killings in Muslim society.
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    Hey Credulous Kid, why the Fantasy rep? You asking me to PM you my vasectomy scars as proof? They are pretty small (especially in contrast to my huge balls) but are still visible. I’d hate for you not to believe me, especially since you believe everything else.
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    I thought sending pics of things like that to young children like @Captain Conspiracy was against the rules and possibly the law? :ban:
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    Okay, so, God stuff aside, the most reasonable argument on each side seems to be:

    Pro-Life: Once conceived, a fetus has the right to be born.

    Pro-Choice: A utetus-having person has the right to decide if they want to incubate a fetus for nine months.

    Which is more important?

    I'm pretty much an antinatalist, and everything else I've said in this thread, so I'd imagine everyone can guess which I think is more important.

    For those unaware, antinatalism is the philosophical position: Any human who is born will almost certainly face hardship, a person cannot consent to face said hardship before being born, it is unethical to force someone to face hardship without their consent, therefore conceiving a child is unethical.
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    Calling yourself pro-life at this point is laughable, especially since the same exact people are pro-gun (always dismissing every single school shooting) and pro-putting immigrant children in detention camps. They don't like being reminded of that and I don't care.

    They think everyone is just as awful as them, as if abortions are just women wanting to kill babies on a whim and not a generally difficult decision.
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    OH SHIT!

    Good point, I sometimes forget we allow minors on here, thanks for the life line!
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    Once you get beyond a couple years old we stop measuring age in months, so you would be 3 years old now.
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    Happy Birthday, I passed that hurdle a few weeks back.

    Seriously, within 24 hours I was impotent with sore knees and a bad back.
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    That's very interesting. What is your view on suicide?
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    Kids, at your age I did not even have neuropathy and diabetes 2 yet. At that age I was so stupid I thought there was no way the republicans would ever vote for a corporate welfare failure named trump who was friends with NYC dems and connected to russia and criminal syndicates who was divorced multiple times and openly paid off hookers with donation money so they would keep their mouth shut. Brexit was not a thing. The avengers were still in the age of Ultron. We were marveling at the Iphone 6. I wasn't, but people were. Obama was in his second term, and the world was at peace and made sense.

    It was such a different time.
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    Interesting point. So in your view would most parents be sadists since large parts of life are pain?
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    Agreed with most of that though I maintain it wasn't all peace and love when President Obama was in his second term.
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    Biologically speaking, what you are referring to is a zygote.

    Weeks later, it will grow into a an embryo and later still a fetus.
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    Once someone does exist, they are able to consent to existing, and should be able to decide to opt out of existing. However, if the desire to opt out of existence is a result of mental illness, they may not be able to properly consent to said opting out.

    I believe that most parents don't consider the antinatalist perspective before deciding to have children, and are not deliberately being unethical. Although, considering most people decide to continue living once they're self-aware, I'm not too concerned what other people do. I personally feel I should take every reasonable measure possible to ensure I don't create any more humans. I'm also aware that if most of all people shared my viewpoint there it would be the end of the species, so I don't get angry about other people reproducing, for completely selfish, irrational reasons.

    When I first became aware of antinatalism, my thoughts were "yeah... that makes sense. I don't like it, but that makes sense."
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    You are not one who should be complaining about a misrepresentation of history. Your knowledge of history is like a nitroglycerin plant after and earthquake.
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    Well, you live in a good time when your views can be enjoyed and there is no need for your reproduction.
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    Just a few million more cells to accumulate and you could actually be born!

    Or you're a tumour.

    Either way, I can see why you might be concerned about a sentience limit on abortion.
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    Plant as in chemical or industrial plant, you inbred fuckwit.
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    @Tererun is an admitted (and proud of it) substance abuser. Who can say what he meant.
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    People with a command of the English language and an IQ above 60.
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    You see. five more points and there's hope for you.
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    Saving this post for when you bomb an abortion clinic
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    Why would I bomb an abortion clinic? People might get hurt.