Blocking Facebook

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  1. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    I'm on an SBS2003 R2 domain. I use a dumb switch from Dell and I have Linksys/Cisco RV042 I use to allow me to switch connections if I lose one of them.

    I've gone into the RV042 to block Facebook during working hours, but some of my employees are getting around it with a firewall. I don't want to make an issue out of this because we're about to go into our busy season and it's much easier to just deal with it than to deal with it, if you catch my drift.

    Can anyone think of any options for blocking websites even when employees use a proxy? I would just block the proxy, but that can be swapped.
  2. Speck

    Speck Dark Brotherhood

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    Send a memo around saying, "Hey! get off facebook while you are at work. We're going to be busy and FB interferes with work.

    This is The Friendly notice.
    Don't give me reason to upgrade it. "
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  3. Speck

    Speck Dark Brotherhood

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    Or, you can make the installing of proxies a no-no.
  4. Uncle Albert

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    Take disciplinary action or get the fuck over it.
  5. Kyle

    Kyle You will regret this!

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    You have to tell the individual employees that are doing it that it's unacceptable. Word will get around fast that not only are you watching out for it, but that you're making it something you're personally attending to. Right now, you're just letting SBS play babysitter - computers are particularly ineffective bad guys.
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    A few months ago, they blocked Facebook and Twitter on the work computers.

    Stupid move on their part because the majority of people using those sites at work were promoting our news stories. :wtf:

    I think there's been a change of heart because I'm finding more and more computers that have Facebook access (and Twitter, I presume, though I don't use that site).
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  7. AlphaMan

    AlphaMan The North Remembers...

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    Twitter has become a remarkable resource for free marketing to the masses. You might want to reconsider banning it.

    Encourage your patrons to follow your shop on Twitter, then offer them exclusive deals... Then see how fast word of mouth spreads via Twitter. It's amazing.
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  8. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    I use Twitter. I use facebook. I'm big into SEO - mainly because right now I'm spending half a million a year on PPC.

    I don't want my people wastig time on FB though.
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Tell 'em not to use it, then.

    At my job, during the FB/Twitter "ban", people who really wanted to post there just used their Blackberries.
  10. Parallaxis

    Parallaxis Reformed Troll - Mostly

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    hmmm, just disconnect the internet completely!
    That will show them!
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  11. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    How often are they using it? If they goofed off on MySpace for an hour vs doing it on Facebook, is that any less of a problem?

    Personally, I'd handle it on a case by case basis. The guy who checks his Facebook once for 5 minutes when he gets to work and during lunch hour is going to be pissed that Facebook is blocked. Meanwhile, the guy who is on it 5 hours a day is going to find ways around your firewalls anyhow. I'd also can the guy who was using it for 5 hours via proxy while keeping the casual Facebook user.

    Just tell them, look, I don't want you guys wasting company time on any site. I'll unblock Facebook, but don't abuse the freedom.

    When you make a hard and fast rule, that means you also have to make an appropriate punishment to the rule. Otherwise you look like a paper tiger. Or if you follow through, then you look like a hard ass and no one likes you.

    I'd also give more leniency to the people who are bringing the goods. If a sales guy is bringing in $100,000 a month in sales, (vs the other average sales ppl bringing in $25,000) I could care less if he spent each afternoon playing MMORPGs or watching YouTube. Being an all-star player has it's perks in the sporting world. I don't see why it shouldn't apply to the corporate world too.
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  13. Order2Chaos

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    Deep packet inspection is what you're asking for, but it's expensive (if it's even available) and will just lead to the use of VPN's to proxies. Hell, it's easy enough to set up a home ssh server with DynDNS. One ssh -d later and there won't be a thing you can do about it. Sure you can block port 22 outbound, but that'll just lead to use of nonstandard ports, or if they're really desperate, commercial IPsec VPN services.

    This is really a personnel issue, not a technical issue; deal with it as such. I'm sure there are local unemployed people who'd gladly forgo Facebook for 8 hours a day in exchange for a job. Just remind everyone of that and watch the problem disappear.*

    *be diplomatic, however...
  14. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move!

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    I often feed information and research to the news director I work with at the radio station via Facebook while he's on air.
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  15. Powaqqatsi

    Powaqqatsi Haters gonna hate.

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    Yes. A technical solution isn't the best path here.
  16. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    My agency has both Facebook and MySpace pages.

    Both of which are blocked from our employees. :lol:
  17. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    as a fellow business owner, I would say relax a bit about it. Gage their productivity. If they aren't performing up to snuff then can em. Other than that let it go....Sure you might want to send out a reminder to your minions that you are ALLOWING them access to FB. In exchange for that privilege they will be held accountable if their productivity falters and have to face various disciplinary consequences (up to and including canning their weak asses)

    Having said that my concern with FB is possible exposure of your network to viruses. That's the only legitimate reason that I could think of banning access to FB. To be honest though that's pretty weak.
  18. Rimjob Bob

    Rimjob Bob Fruitloop Actual

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    If the work gets done, does it matter how much they use Facebook? Let the adults manage their own time.
  19. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    I have a manager to manage my people's time. When they're at work, they SELL ME their time. "Let the adults manage their own time" is incredibly, incredibly mouth vomity.
  20. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    There, I handled that for you. :bergman:
  21. Chris

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    You have a manager, but you're preoccupied with doing his job?

    I'd say let your people govern themselves, but apparently you hired slackers and/or are a petty tyrant. Either way, this points to you being incompetent as an entrepreneur.
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  22. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    a what? :ramen:
  23. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    You saying anything about an entrepreneur isn't noteworthy in any way. When you have a successful business, I might pay attention to you.

    Anyways, thanks to O2C for his technical response.
  24. Rimjob Bob

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    Perhaps you could put them on salary, then.

    Either way, you have to consider what the removal of Facebook privileges is going to do to morale. As others here have mentioned, those who use it reasonable and responsibly--only on lunch break or whenever--are going to find a general ban unfair. You should have your "time manager" deal with abusers on an individual basis.
  25. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Let's remember which forum we're in, Chris.
  26. Nautica

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    Apostle sounds like a classic micro-manager to me. As long as the work is getting done, who the fuck cares?!?

    (And yes, I'm posting this from work...I also manage to complete my tasks just fine, thankyouverymuch)

    I predict he will ban FB usage and his company's employee morale will take a nosedive, and he'll lose some valuable employees to more "friendly" employers.
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  27. Powaqqatsi

    Powaqqatsi Haters gonna hate.

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    I don't think he'll lose valuable employees, but I'm sure that any problem people are going to just find some other way to waste their time. And you are right people will be upset.

    Technical solution to a non-technical problem = fail.
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  28. dkehler

    dkehler Fresh Meat Deceased Member

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    I'm a firm believer in as long as the work is done properly and on time, leave your employees alone. Five minutes on Facebook is not going to kill your business.
  29. Kyle

    Kyle You will regret this!

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    While I think Chris expressed the sentiment with all the subtlety of a brick to the face, he has a point. You have a manager to handle this. Tell him you don't want them on Facebook. It's his job to keep your employees on the straight and narrow. If they continue to waver, then it indicates a problem both with them and your manager.

    See Ask A Manager.

    This gal's take on it is basically that if they're meeting and exceeding targets, to not make an issue out of it, and if they aren't, then tell them to shape up or ship out. If they can't resist the siren call of Facebook after being told that, then they need to be canned. And if your manager can't, well, manage their time like you say he's supposed to, then he should be canned.

    As I said before, just because a problem has a technical solution doesn't mean that the technical solution is the best one. The Japanese make breast-shaped pillows for men to smother their faces in (or, creepier, the official line is so that they can be reminded of being held to their mother's chest) - they ain't no substitute for the real thing.
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  30. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    Using an ACL?