California Says One Gun a Month, So...

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  1. TheBurgerKing

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    I have a .22, .45, 9mm, .38, .308, 5.56, .12 ga, basically everything you can get ammo for for days, which is why I'm focusing on oddball stuff, like the beowulf and .357 sig,worst case it becomes some odd collector's item I can sell off when I retire.
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    In that case, the only non-oddball calibers I have are .45 LC, .45 ACP, and .22 rimfire. All the rest are oddball. :shrug:
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    What about 5.56 and 7.62 NATO? Or did you sell those guns?
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Sounds like you need to go shopping. :bergman:
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    I've still got them. They're some of my oddball calibers since I've only got one of each. :D
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    I never owned a 9mm... :thinking:

    Actually, the few guns I might be interested in, I can't see myself spending that much money on.
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    That's a fair point. I've been looking at the Sig 938 since they started making them. But, that's more than I want to spend. :marathon:

    My problem is that there's nothing I really, actually want that I don't already have. I did a lot of horse trading when I divested myself of all of my Glocks and .40 S&W chambered weapons. There's a couple of things I'd like to pick up for my son to have when he's older, but I'm in no real hurry.

    My dad carried a 1911 at work for years. When I turned 21, he gave that to me and bought himself a new one. I'll pass that along to my son when he turns 21. But, outside of that, a good 12ga shotgun of his own, and maybe an AR of his own, there's nothing he's going to really need. :marathon:
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  8. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    That's pretty much where I am. For home or self defense, the only thing you need is a handgun and/or a shotgun IMO. I've got that and then some. I'd like some flavor of a god quality M1A because I think they're bad ass, but there's no way I'd spend that kind of money on a gun. I'd rather have a $2000.00 banjo than a $2000.00 rifle.

    OTOH, we're going to be moving to middle TN before too long to take over keeping an eye on my wife's family's farms there, and I'll probably get a beater truck gun. I'm thinking an sks.
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  10. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    You think my expectations might be a little unrealistic? :unsure:
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  11. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    M1As can be regularly had in the $1100-$1200 range (Palmetto State is running a sale on them right now for $1199). Springfield Armory, too, not an off-brand.

    If I had the money I...might...get one, but I don't and I probably wouldn't even if I did (again, introducing another caliber into my supply chain).
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    Springfield Armory M1A's are nice, but back when I had a wish list, I was looking at the Fulton Armory rifles.
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    My main problem with the M1A rifles is magazine cost. I admit that I haven't looked in a couple of years, but back when I was thinking about it, GI Surplus 20-round magazines were $50+ each. Meanwhile, I could buy Magpul 30-round magazines for an AR by the truck load at $15.99 each.
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    Yeah...good quality surplus 20 round magazines for my PTR are around 5 bucks a pop. :yes:
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    You're getting raped. I've never paid more than $10-$12 for Magpuls, even immediately post-Sandy Hook.
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    Eh, nah. I forgot what I paid for them, really. When the P-Mag first came out, I decided to replace everything with a lifetime supply. So, I bought 100 of them and about 20 new production 20-rounders. I actually like the 20-round mags for work while prone. The 30-round versions are just a little to high for me to get into a good shooting position while prone.
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    So...small hands and short arms. :chris: :ramen:

    I saw someone recently have a sale (Brownell's? PSA?) selling brand new GI magazines for $8 each, which was incredible to me. That's pre-1994 pricing.

    I have a few dozen of the Brownell's GI magazines and their very high quality. ISTR paying around $12 per in early 2013.
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  19. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I'm sad to say that I haven't been "in the game" for a few years now. Once I got everything I wanted, I kind of quit poking around like I used to do. That said, I need a good supplier for CR123 batteries. I'm tired of having to drive to Montgomery to get a decent deal, even in bulk.
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    For better or worse, I'm on the mailing list for many of the major suppliers (Midway, PSA, Brownell's, Sportsman's Guide, etc) so I get emails from them daily. Usually more than one.

    It's mostly a pain in the ass, but sometimes I'll find deals that are too good to pass up like the R51 I bought late last year or the PPS-43c I got last week from Classic.

    I buy CR123s from a local police/emergency responder place that installs the loud-ass alarms on our company vehicles. They sell them by the ziploc bag.
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    I did some AR mag trials recently, trying to find the best fit for my Beowulf upper. I learned quite a bit about how magazines function during the journey. Magpul mags were disqualified, for example, because they have a spine running down the inside of the front face, all the way down. This is fine for the double stacked 5.56 rounds, but the Beowulf bound takes up the entire body of the mag. E-landers mags can fit 11, but you bottom the spring out and that causes feed issues, while you can't quite fit that 11th round in the Alex Arms mags. Beowulf rounds have significantly more mass, and a loaded mag will push the rounds out through the feed lips of cheaper poly mags, while a rough loaded mag drop on some steel mags will cause the feed lips to flex enough to keep the mag from reseating. The winner ended up being a 33 round reinforced poly mag made by Daniels Defense. It comfortably holds 11, no feed issues, survived loaded drops.
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    FYI in case you don't know, prices for even Chinese SKSs are way, way higher than what they used to be. I got an email yesterday from Classic Firearms touting a new shipment of Chinese SKSs for "only" $400-something. Prices I saw at a local gun show earlier this month were in a similar range.

    ISTR paying something like $115 for my SKS 25 years ago, but that's only because prices were already starting to go up in anticipation of the AWB. Before, you could easily get those guns for less than a hundred bucks.
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    AKs are freakishly expensive now. Where I'm at, a decent(ish) one is $800.
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    That's...where you are. :bergman:

    Though they're still quite a bit more expensive than they used to be. A lot of that is due to so many of them being American-made or with more American-made forged parts than the imports.

    You can get AR-platform guns far cheaper than any AK-series rifle, which is a complete flip from where things were 20-30 years ago.
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    There's two aspects to this. One is the panic following Sandy Hook, which drove prices up, and frankly, they've never recovered. The other, are collectors who want say, an example of an M1 from every factory that ever produced them or something like that, and more importantly, were willing to pay the inflated prices. So now every Fudd selling them is all like "I know what I have!" for some beat up nugget they're asking $500 for. :brood:
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    Prices for what, AKs?

    From what I’ve seen new-production/new-import prices are at or below prices from six years ago. The used market may have spiked and stayed there, but I don’t often check those prices because I rarely buy used guns.

    What truly drove up AK prices was the AWB. The prices spiked leading up to the ban and went even higher during it. Once it was allowed to lapse fifteen years ago, prices for them didn’t really go down at all.

    AR prices, OTOH, have never been lower.
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    Milsurp prices.
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    Oh, that.

    Definitely, but those prices have been out of control for years. Way before Sandy Hook.
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    No, not really. They were still much more reasonable back then. Using Mosin Nagants as an example, prior to Sandy Hook, only the really good ones with the Hex receivers were over a hundred dollars. The No. 1 Mk. 3 I got back then for $275 typically goes for around $600-$700 now. I've seen some examples priced even higher.