California Says One Gun a Month, So...

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  1. TheBurgerKing

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    Do the chambers themselves seem fine? No sign of warping or abnormalities?
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    They look okay. Rounds chamber easily. The .40 S&Ws (Winchester ammo) fell right out after firing.
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    Its probably the armscor ammo then, if you still have some of it try loading a cylender and then extracting the unfired rounds.
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    Rounds drop in and out fine. I compared the Armscor ammo to some Remington I have and it looks like the case dimensions are the same. I think it probably is the ammo, though.

    I also discovered that a .357 Magnum cartridge could probably be fired out of the 610; it fits in the chamber, the rim keeps it from falling through, and the primer stays relatively centered despite the slop. I would, of course, never do this. Reminds me of a Youtube video a few years back of the Yankee Marshall accidentally shooting 9mm out of his .40 Sig. It actually worked, though wouldn't cycle.
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    The cylinder will close with .357 mag loaded? I thought the case was longer with the mag.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    The cylinder on an N-frame is long enough for a .44/.357 Magnum, and the .357 Magnum, though its case is longer than the 10mm's, is smaller enough in diameter that it sticks in past the chamber into the freebore part of the cylinder.

    I didn't try closing the cylinder, but I see no reason why it wouldn't close. The 10mm cases stick out more than the .357 Magnums do.
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    So its just a cylinder and barrel swap and not custom for the round. The more you know.

    Also makes sense with the moon clips. I know they converted (ruined) a bunch of Webley revolvers from .455 to .45 auto by shearing off a bit of the cylinder.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    A tremor in the Force says the Colt Python is back, already shipped to distributors, and set for release on January 2nd. Price is expected to be in the $2-2.5k range. Here's a photo of the new one, which appears to have some small differences from the original:

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    Colt's recent revolvers are on the California roster, so I'd expect this one to be also. They just added the King Cobra Target, which I was excited about, but this one would go to the head of the line if quality is decent.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Won't be able to get one here (not cheaply or easily, anyway), but Ruger just announced a near-clone of the FN Five Seven, but one that will cost about half as much and come with the capability to mount a red dot built in!

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    Oooooh, nifty. Even if I think the 5.7 is wasted in a pistol.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Hmm. Here's an idea: Smith and Wesson N-frame, 8" barrel, 9 or 10 shot 5.7x28.
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    That would actually be interesting. Would make for a funny hunting pistol for smaller game. So it'll never happen unfortunately.
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    Official.

    And MSRP is $1499. :j: :j: :j:

    Not sure if I'll get the 4.25" or the 6".

    It's not on the California roster, but I expect it will be; Colt's other new revolvers are.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Next month's gun may seem a bit odd...

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    Beretta Inox Tomcat, .32 ACP caliber.

    I got it for several reasons: I don't own a .32, I don't own anything that could truly be called a pocket pistol (well, maybe the SIG P238), I like the interesting tip-up barrel design, and it looks like a little brother to my Inox Beretta 92.

    This is really an obsolete design; there are .380s and even 9mms that are the same size. It also has a fairly atrocious trigger pull. But I still think it's neat.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    When I picked up the Glock 35 and put the Tomcat on layaway, I tried out something I've been curious about for quite a while: an HK P2000 pistol with the LEM trigger.

    I've got to say, I'm quite impressed. The LEM trigger is a feature every DA auto pistol should have.

    So, what is it? It's a "pre-cocking" system for a double action trigger. When the slide is first cycled, the hammer stays down, but the first trigger pull is not a long heavy double action; it's a very light take up that puts the hammer back in the fully cocked position, and then you have a regular single action pull to release the trigger.

    It eliminates a big criticism of DA autos: it's the same trigger pull every time (albeit there is a light take-up stroke on the first shot). It also eliminates the need for a decocker; release the trigger and the hammer goes back down. And, unlike most striker designs, it has second strike capability, although this does require a heavy DA pull because the hammer is no longer pre-cocked.

    I think I want one, either a P2000 or a USP with this feature. Almost went with it today, but I'm reining in spending since the Paladinmobile is going to need some repairs soon.

    But it's on the list.
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    A .32 eh? I kinda went the opposite direction and bought a desert eagle :whew:. That LEM trigger sounds like an interesting concept, i'm going to have to look into it.
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    One of the reasons I bought an R51 a while back is so I’d have a pocket pistol and 9mm is as small a caliber as I’d ever want. I don’t even own a .22 pistol (though I wouldn’t mind a Ruger Mk II for plinking if the price was right).
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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    goodness you could put your trigger finger right over the end of the barrel that gun is so short!
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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    Ruger Mark II are a great gun for the price (or used to be when I still shot).
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    Awesome! Details?
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    It's one of the new ones with the rail on the frame and the integrated comp. Stainless steel finish. .50AE, though I might end up ordering a .427DE barrel, because you know me and weird calibers. Just bought it yesterday, and I've been feeling kinda awful, so I haven't been to the range yet. Should have some pics up tomorrow, my phone isn't wanting to connect to my computer at the moment.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Sweet. That's the one I want but can't (readily) get here.
    :lol: Yes, I do. I toyed with asking if it was going to be the .429.

    Though I think it's prospects for taking off in the market aren't good, it is a pretty killer round. Essentially makes your DE an automatic .454 Casull.
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    I don't think it will catch on either, It doesn't have the numbers near the .454 sadly. a 240gr. round out of a .454 averages 1900 ft/s and 1953 ft/lbs of energy where a .429 240gr. is reportedly averaging about 1625 ft/s and 1,407ft/lbs of energy. It does crush the .44 mag though, and is reportedly fairly easy shooting. All it needs changed out is the barrel, though, as the case is just a necked down .50AE. Can even use the same mags. I will probably pick one up, cheaper than dirt DOES have ammo for it. (and I'm no stranger to having to order ammo).
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    okay, got the pictures to link.

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    Nice! I really like the stainless steel and the rail on the receiver enhances the look.
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    I'm hoping to mount a nice, HEAVY light/laser onto that rail for ballast purposes.
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    Dangling a cinder block from a chain tied to the muzzle will help as well. :diacanu:
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    So on the first round you pull the trigger twice?
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    No. It's like a double action pull, except the initial takeup part is very light and it leads to, essentially, a single action pull.

    It's sorta hard to explain, but once you get it, it's really cool.

    I showed it to the sales guy at the gunshop--he had no idea what it was--and he was blown away. Some people pick up the (uncocked) gun, pull the trigger, get a standard heavy DA pull, and ask "What's the big deal?" The feature only comes into play when the gun is cocked.