Cancel Culture Doesn't Exist

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  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Not what you THINK you're saying.

    Obliviousness is another prominent feature on the right. I speak from personal experience.
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  2. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Who whines more than literally anyone about having his views expressed?

    Ben Shapiro.

    Who got asked by the NYT to provide a take on the passing of Limbaugh and was prominently featured as a guess editor by Politico on the same month?

    ALSO Ben Shapiro!

    and who had literal Mark fucking Zuckerberg personally fuck with his own companies algorithms so don't wouldn't bitch at him?

    ALSO BEN SHAPIRO!

    If you haven't sorted out by now that constantly whining that you're being silenced is a grift, it's because you are a mark.
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I just finally watched "42" today.
    Y'know, the Chad Boseman flick about Jackie Robinson.
    And the bigots were doing the saaaame fucking crying in the 40's! :lol:
    They haven't changed!
    They change the buzzwords, but it's the same horseshit.

    "This isn't the America I love! :weep:".

    "What happened to the land of the free!? :weep:".

    "They're taking over! :weep:".
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  4. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I follow a historian on Twitter named Seth Colter and he's always linking primary sources from the 60's and earlier and all the right wing outrage today is literally the exact same shit, often not reworded at all except to change which "other" needs to be feared and hated.
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  5. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne 1/06 Was An Inside Job Formerly Important

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    Hasn't posted there since last March or so. I won't speculate on why.

    I did see a few posts where it appeared he'd gotten his head outta his ass where women's autonomy was concerned so maybe he's learned a lesson or two over the years
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  6. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    You actively support people who encourage the termination of others for GLBT friendships and relationships, and for having abortions. You openly call for owning the libs without expressing any boundaries like firing and economic cancellation for being liberal. As to the drug thing, you do endorse people who actively destroy lives with the drug war. Most drug users are not criminally dangerous and they do not participate in violence and harm to the community. Yet you actively support the persecution of them for their recreation by supporting the drug war and it's pushers.

    These are active things you do that damage other people's lives. You do not seek out alternatives to the republican party monsters. You do demand better people on the right who do not do these things. You will vote for a republican that does these things over democrats that do not even when the dems are more in line with your personal values than the rep choice is.

    So don't give me that bullshit that you do not support those things.
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  7. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Putting the surgeon general's warning on tobacco products has not cancelled them. After multiple decades I can still go down and give myself cancer with their product. OTOH I cannot buy pot, cocaine, PCP, or heroin legally because they are actually cancelled in society. Oh, and just like cancel culture does not actually cancel most people, banning a substance does not cancel it either.

    A warning about contents is not cancellation. Here that @The Ghost of Crazy Horse . Putting a warning label on it and then putting it out there without editing is not cancelling it. I am an anime fan, and I know what cancelling shit for the protection of white prudish snowflakes means. There are examples of american cancel culture with some of the most benign children's programs. No one put a fucking warning on sailor moon saying watch out lesbiansd and transgendered people ahead. They either cut it or made them cousins. That is actual cancel culture.,

    Oh, and if you want to bitch about disney actually cancelling something out of embarassment, there are actually things in their vault they will not release because they are openly racist. I will actually agree Disney has tried to clean up their reputation by cancelling their historically racist shit rather than simply putting some sort of discussion about it out there. That is for the right wing snowflakes who do not want to admit to the grand old racist days of america. Those snowflakes are who are actually hurt because their whitewashed america is all tarnished and disgusting.

    Oh, and do not get me started about Disney's racial cancellation of Ghibli and anime competition.
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  8. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne 1/06 Was An Inside Job Formerly Important

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    Oh Lord, the "lesbian cousins" of Sailor Moon :lol: :



    Wow, such platonic, much straight :lol:
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  9. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    That is just the popular blatant GLBT one. There are titles that never made it over here because you just could not cut that much shit out of them. What they did to cardcaptor sakura was holy shit awful because no one would want to watch a show with a magical girl as the lead. I have to admit to really hating how the powerful and magical girls in disney all have to be princesses. We can't have just the everyday schoolgirl be a great hero like in anime. No, they have to be some princess of royal birth.

    You look at what ghibli did to the release of spirited away and part of that was because the girl in the story was just some kid with her parents and they could not stand not having a princess be what girls see. The only non-princess disney girl seems to be doc Mcstuffins. I am actually glad they switched shit up for the black girls, but it seems a bit racist to me when we see one of their only black female cartoon characters and she is not a princess.

    OK, I am going to take my meds now before this becomes a multi page hate on disney and their continued racist, sexist, and anti-lgbt bullshit. I am glad they have unedited muppets but fuck disney is a warped and bullshit company.
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  10. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne 1/06 Was An Inside Job Formerly Important

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    Yeah, it's too late in the day to get into the Chenobyl clusterfuck that was Cardcaptor Sakura. :brood:

    But yeah, the BL and GL scene was decidedly underground for decades and really didn't get dubs until Yuri on Ice got big.
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  11. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    If you want to see subtle disney censorship and cancel culture you should look at The Lion King. This was a movie that was stylized with African motifs, but Disney put it through the lense of white people. The artistry was a bunch of white ass disney artists flown to africa to study the natural and cultural styles. It had an african style as seen by white artists. It even went into the soundtrack which was mainly inspired by Lebo M who wrote a whole other sountrack called rhythm of the Pridelands which later was used for TLK 2 soundtrack. Back in the day I was online talking to a person from south africa. I was Simba and he was Zazu and he told me if I liked TLK soundtrack I had to check out the rhythm of the pridelands because it was basically stolen from for the more white version of the music. I love Elton John and I still like his two hits for the soundtrack, but that was complete white sauce.

    Disney thought they did a great thing by expressing black culture through white artists. That is a form of cancel culture and cultural appropriation. Really, if you had to use a white star to get the audience you really should have gone with Peter Gabriel. He had an african inspired phase, and would have brought so much more of those artists in to actually be a part of the production. But cultural appropriation with Disney is purely sanitizing other cultrues through cancelling them and then remaking their work as your own and pretending you were so into the whole cultural thing.

    It really poisoned one of my favorite movies back in the day.
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  12. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    Yet she still doesn't get it - amazing isn't it?
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  13. Useful Idiot

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    A lot of opposition to so-called woke stuff, cancel culture, etc. is the attitude of "well, this doesn't offend ME. Why would anyone else be offended by it?"
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  14. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    That's what we tried to tell NBC in 1969. :(
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    GhostEcho Yojimbo

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    Maybe I have the wrong guy, but he's been posting since at least January. I didn't look farther back than that.
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    It's cultural blindness.

    I can't say even I was immunes to it, because the fandom circles I was apart of in the 2000s were largely queer. I have always supported gay marriage but being straight-ish there were things that I'll never be privy to. Plus, I didn't even know real racism where it pertained to my damn self, so how the fuck was I gonna see it micro aggressions in any other group? :shrug:
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  17. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    A group of people calling for someone to be fired because they don't like her political views is cancel culture no matter how many ways you try and spin it.
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  18. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Listen here, Jack

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    Which views, specifically?

    Name them. :bailey:
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  19. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    That's a long winded way of saying, "It's been around forever, therefore it isn't a big deal." Which is a complete chickenshit way of sidestepping the fact that you're fine with people losing their jobs over their political views so long as it doesn't happen to people on your side. It's also a very hypocritical stance considering your positions on SO many other issues.

    In the future, don't ever try and claim the moral high ground, because you are no better than the people that you rail against.
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  20. Useful Idiot

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    Did Disney fire this actress after a public outcry demanding her termination, or was it purely an internal HR matter?
  21. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    It's the legacy of Reagan. Republicans controlled the California state government in 1971 when they passed 'at will' laws regarding employment.

    You can bitch all you want about cancel culture, you are the ones that make it possible.

    Oh look, if it isn't the inevitable consequences of your party's actions. :D
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  22. tafkats

    tafkats That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, bingo! Moderator

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    Does a bunch of conservatives boycotting Coca-Cola because of their diversity training count, or ...?

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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Member when the right boycotted Rosie O'Donnell for giving Tom Selleck a hard time over being in the NRA?
    Member how the boycotts worked, and Rosie O'Donnell was cancelled, and then she died?
    Oh, no, you say?
    She was on for 3 more years, and then was on The View?
    And now Tom Selleck sells reverse mortgages?
    Cuz Rosie was right, and he's a piece of shit?
    Really?
    Wow!
    (Cranks up Maine accent) Ain't that odd!?
    :soma:
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  24. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Listen here, Jack

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    Word from Carano herself is that Disney was willing to forgive her even after the Nazi stuff if she was willing to share an apology they wrote for her, but she refused. What job doesn't have a rule about at least pretending to be polite to the customers? :shrug:
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  25. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Dare to be Stupid

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    She declined to recite the prescribed lines on command, the screech mob lost their minds in their usual hyperventilating style, and Disney shitcanned her for appearances' sake. They'll go after Rosario Dawson next. :brood:
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    what did Rosario Dawson do or say?
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    She compared being Republican to being Jewish and living under the oppression of Nazi Germany. She's also a big QAnon conspiracy theorist, and openly believes that Hollywood, the Democrats, and the Government are running a massive sex trafficking ring, and that Donald Trump is working to take it down. I mean, I guess those opinions, made on a public platform with millions of readers, wouldn't affect the position of her employer Disney, right?

    Right?
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    Remind me again, exactly what the job of an actor is? I think, but I could be wrong, that part of it entails recited prescribed lines on command.
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  29. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Listen here, Jack

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    I'm guessing UA would be outraged at the idea that an employer should be criticized for firing an employee that causes them any sort of headache. No one is entitled to a job, after all.

    Five minutes late? Gone.

    Sloppy job of mopping the floor? Gone.

    Attempting to unionize? Gone.

    Entitled to a higher wage than a new employee? Gone.

    Dragging the company into a public controversy and negatively effecting the bottom line? How dare anyone be fired for that! :rant:
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  30. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Dare to be Stupid

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    :brood:

    If I was unclear, my disdain is for further indulgence of the screech mob, not the company reacting in a predictable way to something that impact revenues in some tiny way.