Captain Marvel

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  1. We Are Borg

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  2. Diacanu

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  3. Marso

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    Just saw it.

    The Good:
    Standard MCU fair. Liked seeing Coulson again. Liked Samuel L M.F. Jackson, as always. Brie Larson was charming and funny as the lead. (If I'm allowed to say that as a white guy...) :nono: FX work was great, and there were a plot twists in there that I didn't see coming but made sense in view of other things I saw happen in the movie that initially left me scratching my head. A worthy addition to the MCU. Best closing credits since Thor. Loved all the 90's music throwbacks.

    The Bad:
    Like Superman, there is the danger that Captain M is a little overpowered. She seems to be a supes equivalent, probably far more powerful than Thor and the rest of the Asgardians. Then again, the team is going to need some star power to whup Thanos here in a month or so.

    The Ugly:
    Brie Larson's unfortunate comments prior to release, which blossomed into a huge internet crapfest. We don't need this shit, people. Moviemakers- just make your damn movies. Fans- just watch the damn movies. Everyone keep calm and have a big bowl of STFU.

    Summary:
    Good stuff. If you like the MCU, go see it. If you're a hater, skip it. If you're butthurt on either side of the MRA/SJW argument, grow the fuck up.
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  4. We Are Borg

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    Agreed, but that has nothing to do with a critical review of the film itself.
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  5. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    That was really all I had for the 'ugly' column.
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    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Also, something I've noticed before and again here is how these are becoming 'event' movies like SW used to be. Enjoyed that aspect of it as well, in a way I don't with SW anymore.
  7. Paladin

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    Saw it, comments below, spoiler/ish talk tagged,...

    Liked it. It isn't great, and the pieces are better than the whole, but it entertains. On my Marvel films list, it's lower middle, above GotG v2 and below Spider-Man: Homecoming.

    Likes:

    1. The de-aging machine works nearly flawlessly. Someone watching the film who didn't know Gregg or Jackson wouldn't know they've been digitally rejuvenated.

    2. They get the 90s vibe pretty solidly. There's a gag with a computer that got a big laugh in my theater.

    3. The mid-credits scene! Bam!

    4. Annette Benning, especially...

    5. The unexpected turns in the story.

    6. The Marvel logo. Bravo!

    7. Mendelsohn as Talos...

    8. The cat.

    9. The obligatory cameo, suited to the picture's timeframe.

    Dislikes:

    1. "Borders." Really?

    2. Shouldn't the Starforce...

    3. How Nick Fury...

    4. As @Marso said above, Carol seems a bit overpowered vis-a-vis her foes.

    5. Although the film (thankfully) does not go full SJW, some elements of Carol's story and relationship with Rambeau venture into over-idealized cliches.

    6. Although Larson is fine in the role, the character of Carol seems a little underdeveloped.

    Some questions:

    The female-led superhero film is one area DC has truly beaten Marvel. Wonder Woman arrived two years earlier and is a significantly better film

    But this one will scratch the Marvel itch while we wait for Endgame.

    6.5/10.
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  8. K.

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    Yeah, the CGI face work done on the older actors is absolutely incredible. It is difficult to believe that this is only two years on from the artificial faces in Rogue One.
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  9. Diacanu

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    Yeah, but...


    There's still Black Widow on the way.

    ;)
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    Just got back from seeing it. Was a little boring in parts but overall it was decent. A lot of the movie felt flat to me. There wasn't the excitement in the fight scenes like in Avengers: Infinity War.

    Both my kids though immediately said they were unimpressed by Larson. I had to :flow: on that one because I didn't get a chance to contaminate their minds. :ramen:

    I don't see how Larson is in the next seven movies as a major player.

    Liked the Marvel opening showing Stan Lee in the letters. Theater clapped after that came up.


    Same in mine.

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    Paladin:

    I want to know this too and I can't find an answer to it. To me it seems as if he was there first since he comes from the backroom.

    I'd agree with the 6.5 out of 10.
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    Also Danvers.....

  14. Paladin

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    Well, there's real life and then there's fiction. Fiction has to be believable, real life often isn't. :diacanu:
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    Captain Marvel has raked in 455 million worldwide on its first weekend.
    The prognosticators are predicting it finishing its run at 1 billion.

    Eat it, incels, eat it.
    :yes:
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  21. Paladin

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    Well, I guess that settles whether this film will be a success.

    It already is and its opening weekend isn't over.
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    It doesn't settle whether it's a good movie or not.
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    Transformers films made boatloads of money, yet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thought they were good films.
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    Didn't say "good." I said "success."

    I actually think it wasn't all that good, but I'm not paying for all those tickets, so...
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    Saw this today.

    It was.....fine. Had some good parts.

    But this isn't a film I'll ever feel compelled to watch again.

    The biggest problem is Captain Marvel herself. Brie Larson delivers the worst acting performance of any lead character in any of the MCU movies. She alternates between being an expressionless block of wood, and abrupt moments when she lets loose with a burst of nervous laughter at something Fury says. I was taken out of the movie more than once by Larson's horrible acting. I couldn't believe how bad some of her line readings were.

    Larson is completely upstaged by Lashana Lynch, who brings more intensity, emotional energy and superhero badass potential in her few scenes than Larson generates throughout the entire film.

    Marvel completely missed the boat by not casting Lynch as the 90's version of Capt. Marvel, Monica Rambeau. It also would have been a bolder choice for the "diversity & inclusion" agenda. Instead, they went with the white, blond Mary Sue (she tears though a giant Ronan attack cruiser as though it's tissue paper, ripping it apart like Batmobile Armor Voyager firing transphasic torpedoes at Borg cubes? :rolleyes: ).

    I really am shocked that Marvel thought it was a good idea to introduce a ridiculously overpowered character never seen before in the 10-year history of the MCU six weeks before their ultimate film that will close out Phases 1-3. And they want this character to play a central role in Endgame? That's just a bad, bad idea. Endgame needs to focus on the characters that audiences have spent the past 10 years getting to know and investing themselves in.

    As for the rest of the film:

    Kree/Skrull War - impossible to be emotionally invested in these plot points since we've never seen the Kree or Skrulls before and have never heard anything about this conflict. And we don't see enough of it in the film. We're told the Skrulls are an oppressed people, but we never see it. Kind of like how we're told that Anakin and Shmi are slaves but we never see them *being* slaves.

    Ronan - why is he involved? I couldn't understand his association with Jude Law. And the movie makes no attempt to explain how or why Dijon Mustard Honsou becomes a Ronan henchman.

    The Cat - kinda cute, got big laughs from the audience I saw the film with, but I predicted what the cat would do early on.

    The Tesseract - so, after Howard Stark finds it at the bottom of the ocean at the end of Capt. America, it presumably stays in the possession of the US Government/Shield for decades. How does Dr. Mar-Vell get her hands on it?

    Dr. Mar-Vell - why does she need to invent lightspeed drive when she's a member of a technologically advanced alien race that already possesses faster than light tech as evidenced by the Kree's interstellar travel? For that matter, the Skrulls themselves are an advanced race that possesses this tech.


    The fallout - Rotten Tomatoes has destroyed any credibility they may have had with their corrupt antics over this film. First they disable the "want to see" statistic to protect the movie because the rating had dropped below 30%, then they delete 54,000 audience reviews because the score had dropped to 31%. And they've been waging a war of disinformation the past few days trying to spin a false narrative about why they did these things.
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  26. Diacanu

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    ...and, scroll wheel.
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    Not only did you read it, but you'll be dreaming about it all night. :rolleyes:
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    I'd never heard of this woman until now, but apparently she won a damned Oscar for best actress four years ago. :soma:

    Not my type, though. Too "beige".
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    It would have been interesting.

    I think she's going to get knocked down by Thanos.

    I really hope shes does. If she's the one to take down Thanos I think that will infuriate a lot of fans.

    Well Stark found it and the government had possession of it so they probably let her use it since she was working on the lightspeed project and was able to show them she could harness the tesseract.

    They had no idea what the tesseract was and with no way to use it. Of course how did she get to Earth and infilitrate in a time period when

    They did a terrible job of explaining this.

    How is inventing a lightspeed drive going to stop a war when it seems both species are already able to travel faster than light?

    If it's just marketing for humanity's sake than explain that in the film.

    "The Lightspeed name was just for Earth. The real mission of this thing was to bring the Kree Empire to it's knees. It's an energy weapon."

    Has to be a setup for the next Captain Marvel movie.

    We know from Guardians of The Galaxy that he's a fanatic and doesn't agree with the Kree making peace with Xandar.

    We see in this film that he has no qualms about wiping out Earth in order to wipe out Skrulls.

    What made him transition to big bad guy in charge of his own army and what gave him the ability to hold the power stone in his hand in GOTG?
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