Cleanup on aisle five! Walmart shooting incident

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    I understand his reasoning and it is sound.

    But it also can be considered in error in a number of ways.

    People believe they can do things about car accidents as most Americans think they are good drivers anyway. For that matter most people have some degree of choice about their medical providers. Likewise typical homicides involve someone the victims know. So in that regard you have some control over who you associate with.

    But the reactions to mass murders are much like the unreasonable fear that grips areas when a serial killer is known to be active. The prospect of strictly anonymous deadly violence is nothing you can prepare yourself for or act to prevent. It turns every public venue you go to shopping, eateries, movies, church, schools into a possible spot where deadly violence could occur. And that naturally scares the hell out of people.

    Most American citizens do not have a fortress mentality. They want to go out in public and they want those public venues to be safe.
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  2. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    And?

    The case yet again seems to be that deaths justify deaths? There are plenty of deaths in car crashes so why try to prevent murders?

    The impact of guns goes well beyond mass shootings and is completely unnecessary.
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  3. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    The thing is regarding guns is that all the bitching and moaning about them ignores two key facts:

    1) You don't need semi automatic so called "assault weapons" to kill large numbers of people. All the Virginia Tech shooter needed was a couple of common handguns and a pair of padlocks. You can go on YouTube right now and learn how with minimal planning and modifications to be capable of firing SINGLE SHOT shotguns fast enough to kill a dozen people or more in couple of minutes. Or do the same with archaic muzzle loaders.

    2) For that matter you don't need guns at all to commit mass murder. A company has started marketing a remote controlled drone...with a flamethrower attached!!! Imagine how many people you can kill and how much damage you can do with this thing that can throw a plasma ignited fire stream for up to 90 seconds!?!! Imagine one of those remotely flown to the entrance of a school, theatre, restaurant, or church. And the killer doesn't even have to risk his or her own life to do it.
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    Or even "significant factor".

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    See https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/05/politics/violent-video-game-shooting-fact-check/index.html for the article - there's an issue with the text when I save it, but that blue dot? That's the US. X-axis is $ spent on video games per 100k people, Y-axis is gun deaths per capita.

    Arrows are Ireland, Denmark and Switzerland, just to show some nations that have high firearm ownership and DON'T have massive amounts of gun murders correlated to video games.

    Now, given your history, I might be willing to buy the argument that Americans have more trouble telling fiction from fact and thus can't separate killing in a game from killing in real life. But if y'all bought into fantasy that easily, Dayton would be your king, instead of a laughing stock. So, y'know, there's hope.
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  5. matthunter

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    Anyhoo, this could get interesting:

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/ma...-promoted-conspiracy-theories-defense-lawyer/
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  6. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    I'm not going to list all the totally preventable ways to die because your mind is made up. Death by bullet is unquestionably, exponentially, undisputably the worst way to cause a person's death.
  7. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Really? What about burning?
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    totally acceptable! Humans have been incinerating each other since the dawn of mankind.
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    Quest Liberty and Justice Staff Member Administrator

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    Anybody else get the impression that was NDT's way of shifting the focus away from his sexual misconduct allegations. :flow:
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  11. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Unfair, all he did was say those things and then laugh when someone at his rally suggested shooting them to cheers from the crowd.
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  12. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    not really, consider if we are "grading on a curve" Tyson doesn't come close to some of the folks on the piling pile.
  13. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Yup, he has a reputation to give a lick of paint.
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  14. steve2^4

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    wracking my brains for brit rhyming slang, nuttin. "Lick of paint"?
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    None there that Im aware of, just a shorthand way of saying a superficial improvement.
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  19. tafkats

    tafkats That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, bingo! Moderator

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    If African-Americans start doing the same thing, maybe we can get conservatives to support gun control again.

    That's worked before, after all.
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  20. GhostEcho

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    The Left in a nutshell: "It would be nice to use African-Americans as political pawns to suit our agenda."
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  21. Dayton Kitchens

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    You can't blame black people for supporting the Democratic Party past the point of all common sense.

    After all, they supported the Republican Party for nearly 100 years after the Civil War (1960).
  22. steve2^4

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    And then what happened, and why?
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  23. oldfella1962

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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    you touched yourself at night and ruined things for everyone.
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    Do you have a collection of repartee that you pull from at random? I'd suggest not using your ass.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    at least I can recognize mine from a hole in the ground. But I hear you are making great progress with your "shit from Shinola" flashcards you got for your birthday - good for you!
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    I'm sure you can, so many times with your head up it.
  28. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    you should able to recognize yours since it's so worn out (I'm not judging!) when you travel to Florida people mistake it for a sinkhole.
    Not too much longer and some enterprising pilot might start offering helicopter tours! Sadly the view may not be breath taking. :yuck:
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    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    I'll rely on your judgement, coming from a perfect asshole.
  30. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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