Defund the Police

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  1. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    I have to point out again that what New Mexico can do and apparently did was to set up its own set of civil rights laws under which the doctrine of qualified immunity does not apply. It cannot outlaw the doctrine of qualified immunity in federal law.

    Qualified immunity as it exists does not prevent police officers from being held liable/accountable in other context. Even if qualified immunity protects a police officer from a federal claim for a fatal shooting, say, the police officer can still be sued for wrongful death under state law.

    At a guess, this probably is not going to have much of an impact on the number or quality of police in New Mexico.
  2. MikeH92467

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    Running in circles whilst screaming the “the sky is falling” has become SOP for an awful lot of people.
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    https://crooksandliars.com/2021/04/watch-heres-lapd-video-cops-didnt-want-us

    Now, at one point the cop does say "I don't know who I'm looking for yet". So it's possible LAPD are so incompetent they didn't check details of the suspect's appearance. But, even if they had good reason not to do that, that their cops are so confrontational that they approach the first guy they see not with "excuse me, sir, but we've had a domestic violence call from this block, could you confirm your identity for us please?" but "turn around, because I fucking said so".
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  4. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon outta my way Administrator Formerly Important

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    Too dishonest to speak in court, but not too dishonest to be a cop.

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  5. Jenee

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    If they're quitting over this, then it's a good thing. We don't need anyone who supports qualified immunity in a position in which they could kill anyone and claim qualified immunity.
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  6. MikeH92467

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    Ah....but will they just end up with new jobs in jurisdictions that still have it? :unsure:
  7. Jenee

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    Most likely. Best we can do is to continue to whittle down their opportunities.
  8. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon outta my way Administrator Formerly Important

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    This is a hell of a thread.

    Fuck Qualified Immunity. :mad:

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  9. matthunter

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    WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?! Qualified immunity applies to lawyers?

    People who will lie for cash?

    How the fuck is this a thing?
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  10. Bickendan

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    Quick! LawyerForge, strike while the iron's hot!
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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    wait, strike while the iron's hot? :shakefist: Dammit why don't they put a safety warning sticker on that iron? What if was using an iron as a sex toy? I'm suing the iron makers! :shakefist:
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    Excellent choice for Police Union President. The membership can actually control him, and he’ll defend them to the ends of the Earth because if anyone feels like he hasn’t...
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  17. Ancalagon

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  18. Ancalagon

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    Call me names all you want, but this is why I don't, never have, and never will trust cops. Sure, not all are bad. But, as long as shit like this is allowed to continue to happen and "good" cops continue to say nothing ...
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  20. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Dare to be Stupid

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    You shouldn't trust anyone who has not earned it. But where police are concerned, trust is not a prerequisite of compliance. Neither is any personal affinity, or reassurance that your special feelings have been recognized.
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    I disagree. My special feelings always come first.
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    It is for me. If I don't trust you, I will not put my life in your hands, regardless of what uniform you wear. You have not earned the right to take my life from me.
  23. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Dare to be Stupid

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    Take your life? Who the fuck said....oh right more "all cops are murderers" nonsense. :brood:

    Carry on.
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    Granted, I may have a better chance because I'm not a 13 year old unarmed black child.
  25. Ancalagon

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  26. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Do you have skittles, a sandwich, or a cell phone? I guess skittles are only an issue with rent a notcops.
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    I'll carry a pistol. That way the police will only think it's a taser.
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  28. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    White person with a gun is a reason to let you go. especially if you threaten the cops life and treat them like shit.
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  29. Ancalagon

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  30. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    My grandparents were robbed by local druggies years ago while they were up north. They broke into their home and tried to steal the safe with over 4k in rolled coins in it, but could not move it far. So they took an old coin bank with about 7 dollars in change in it. The bank was shaped like an old PO box with the combination lock they used to have on the front. The combo to the bank was on the bottom with the last letter removed. The police actually found it when they raided the house where the idiots lived and mixed their drugs. It was returned with all the change inside because the idiots never figured out how to open it in the months they had it. Even the police were amazed they had actually recovered something.

    My grandparents wanted to know how quickly it could be opened so they handed it to me and just by going through the letters one by one I had it open in less than five minutes.